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the-right-writer
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To all freelancers looking for help

I have always had freelancers come to me for help. In the last year, the river has swelled into an enormous ocean.

 

You don't need me; Upwork provides an enormous amount of information that few ever use. If, after you have gone through all the information I provide, you still have questions, that is when you ask additional questions in the forum.

 

If you think you will make big bucks right away, you are mistaken. The majority of freelancers never land a job because they have no skills and aren't interested in educating themselves. Others believe online freelancing is a path to full-time employment. It can be, but highly unlikely on this platform.

 

Freelancing is not for everyone. It means you are self-employed and must adhere to all regulations and laws governing responsibilities, such as paying taxes. Freelancing means you are on your own. No one has your back, including Upwork. If you don't follow the rules, no one will or can help you.

 

If you are willing to work hard, follow the rules and prepared to spend a lot of connects and proposals, you can be successful, as many are on Upwork. While so many fail, it is almost always due to lack of skills and treating freelancing like employment  where the employer will make sure you do the job correctly.

 

If you want to succeed, start with the Terms of Service, then read this from Wes.

 

Then go here. Then here.  Next, check this site regularly for events such as webinars and other learning opportunities.

After that, go here for safety information, and then here. If you still need help, after you have gone through all the previous steps, you can find additional help here. This thread is dedicated to new freelancers. And here are announcements from Upwork that can help keep you up to date.

 

It will take some time to go through all the information. I'm not suggesting people should not post in the forum, I am suggesting before you ask questions and want help, you need to help yourself first.

 

 

From Prashant P: "And have relevant profile picture of your face.  Not some desks, or Mickey mouse, or full face covering." 

From Susan S: "And patience! Have patience! It takes a while to get started, even after going through all the information available."

From Martina P:  "Only one thing you forgot, namely telling people to use all 15 skills, if you have all 15 skills"

And with advice from Maria T, I will say, 

Refrain from personal messages, please read all the links I have added.

 

 

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Great!

Please review my profile and give recommendations.

 

Regards

I will appreciate reviewing of my profile and guidance towards at least getting one job. I am very new in upwork.

Kind regards
Isaac M Kimani

Go back to the top post, read it, and then follow all the links to the Academy and other resources. You need to learn about setting up a profile and portfolio. The introduction speaks about you - but not the amazing things you are going to do for the client with your skills. Also, your history should be in past experiences or employment in a different part of your profile, not in the introduction.

 

Getting a job requires skills, lots of proposals, many connects, patience, determination, and time. It's not easy to get a job, and most fail because they have no skills. There are successful freelancers here, so it can be done.

Your profile needs considerable work as nothing much is there. Go back to the top post, read it, and follow every link. You need to learn the Terms of Service, the Red Flags from Wes, and everything in the Academy. Currently, you are a target for scammers because of your profile. Learn how to protect yourself, because no one, including Upwork, will do it for you.

I need to start my first job on upworks. Kindly help me.... after submission of many proposals, i didn't get any job. I am new here on upworks. Can somebody help me?

 

 

You need to go back to the top and follow all the links in the post. Pay special attention to the Terms of Service and the Red Flags on Scams from Wes. Your profile needs work. You have a long list of qualifications, but little information on what you will do for the client. Also, you need more in your portfolio.

 

You will learn more about how to write your profile and proposals in the Academy. If you are writing proposals in the same manner as your profile, the client is not receiving information on why you, specifically, should be hired over other freelancers.

I need to start my first job on upworks. Kindly help me.... after submission of many proposals, i didn't get any job. I am new here on upworks. Can somebody help me?

celgins
Community Member

Other freelancers cannot help you get a job on Upwork.

 

Your profile is set to private, so we cannot see if there are any problems with your profile.

2d0bb780
Community Member

Could you kindly look at mine too please

Thanks for the words of encouragement. But please, what and what does networking involve? I want to be sure, so I don't end up breaching people's privacy. Let me confess. I've sent messages to fellow freelancers in the past asking for insights about some skills or soliciting their support in learning a new skill. I hope nothing is wrong with this.

There is nothing wrong with connecting and talking with other freelancers. However, there are some things that should not be done. Asking, pleading or demanding a job is not OK. Harassing people by contacting them multiple times after they have said to go away. Or anything that is rude or demanding.

 

I'm not saying you have done these things, I'm talking to those who do.

 

Personally, when I receive demands, they go straight to delete. When I see freelancers who have done absolutely nothing, not even a photo, they go straight to delete.

 

I'm not fond of random requests, but there are freelancers who have hundreds in their "network" or messaging system. If you have many people in your network, a lot of time and bandwidth goes into posts like, "Hi", or "How is everybody"? etc. It's entirely up to you how many people are in your network.

Yes it is true

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There is no fee for contacting other freelancers.

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Why

you're right.... being a freelancer doesn't mean free to be contacted. 

 

Hello am Stephen.Have been in Upwork for some time and am looking forward to getting a job.

 

Regards

Nzioki Stephen 

thank you

 

Well, so far I haven't gotten any DMs๐Ÿ˜ฉ

This question was for me.


Jeanne H wrote:

I may need to repeat myself hourly as I have more people who saw the post and decided I am so knowledgeable, they want me to help them individually.


They must have missed the part where you said, "You don't need me."


Christine A wrote:

Jeanne H wrote:

I may need to repeat myself hourly as I have more people who saw the post and decided I am so knowledgeable, they want me to help them individually.


They must have missed the part where you said, "You don't need me."


Confusing, isn't it, when this is a community where people are supposed to ask questions? There may have been a better way to handle this. JMO.

 

I suggested on this thread that the OP start a blog. It would solve her feeling of frustration, would get the word out there to a huge audience, and she wouldn't be "required" to answer anybody, although I don't think she's required now.

 

And people who want a sense of community plus want to ask questions and get answers, can keep going on a community that welcomes questions and answers. ๐Ÿ™‚ Easy-peasy.


Melanie H wrote:

I suggested on this thread that the OP start a blog. It would solve her feeling of frustration, would get the word out there to a huge audience, and she wouldn't be "required" to answer anybody, although I don't think she's required now.


No, a blog would not solve her feeling of frustration. And the people who go to blogs for the information she referenced are not the people here in this forum asking the same uber-basic questions over and over. So those users would not find the blog helpful.

 

Jeanne knows that she is not required to answer anybody. She wants to help and be part of the community, and, like any good, helpful person, becomes frustrated by all of the bad advice and feels the urge to correct the misapprehensions and mal-advice. The problem is, there is so much to correct - all the time! - that she gets burnt out. And while it may be easy to not enter the forum, it is not so easy to ignore the direct messages through the Community platform (and especially the ones that DM her through Upwork).

 


Melanie H wrote:

And people who want a sense of community plus want to ask questions and get answers, can keep going on a community that welcomes questions and answers. ๐Ÿ™‚ Easy-peasy.


Alas, communities that have a flood of newcomers with no knowledge are susceptible to lots of opinions "answers". I don't know about you, but I don't know anybody who doesn't dabble in conspiracy theories who wants their community to be awash in false information and ignorance.


Jonathan L wrote:

Melanie H wrote:

I suggested on this thread that the OP start a blog. It would solve her feeling of frustration, would get the word out there to a huge audience, and she wouldn't be "required" to answer anybody, although I don't think she's required now.


No, a blog would not solve her feeling of frustration. And the people who go to blogs for the information she referenced are not the people here in this forum asking the same uber-basic questions over and over. So those users would not find the blog helpful.

 

Jeanne knows that she is not required to answer anybody. She wants to help and be part of the community, and, like any good, helpful person, becomes frustrated by all of the bad advice and feels the urge to correct the misapprehensions and mal-advice. The problem is, there is so much to correct - all the time! - that she gets burnt out. And while it may be easy to not enter the forum, it is not so easy to ignore the direct messages through the Community platform (and especially the ones that DM her through Upwork).

 


Melanie H wrote:

And people who want a sense of community plus want to ask questions and get answers, can keep going on a community that welcomes questions and answers. ๐Ÿ™‚ Easy-peasy.


Alas, communities that have a flood of newcomers with no knowledge are susceptible to lots of opinions "answers". I don't know about you, but I don't know anybody who doesn't dabble in conspiracy theories who wants their community to be awash in false information and ignorance.


Okay. ๐Ÿคท Then sadly, you and she and anyone else who chooses to will continue to be frustrated. Sorry about that. 

 

Please know that I, too, am here to help. When something gets this frustrating I take a breather. ๐Ÿ™‚ I did not intend to derail the thread from its original intent; I was pointing out why eventually the giant "helpful" threads are given up on by the questioner, hence what seem to be repeats as posts over and over again on the forum.  

 

My post was for the OP, who can take my advice or not. You might step back and allow her her own input. Hope this helps.

 

 


Melanie H wrote:

[...]


Please know that I, too, am here to help. When something gets this frustrating I take a breather. ๐Ÿ™‚ I did not intend to derail the thread from its original intent; I was pointing out why eventually the giant "helpful" threads are given up on by the questioner, hence what seem to be repeats as posts over and over again on the forum.  

 

My post was for the OP, who can take my advice or not. You might step back and allow her her own input. Hope this helps.

 

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But you have not only tried to derail it,  you have also tried to devalue it.  I don't think the OP needs any advice and she has given plenty of sensible "input". 

 

If your post was only intended for the OP, then you could have sent her a private message. The forums are public and anybody can comment. 

 

 

 

The thing is, there are new freelancers posting, "How do I get a job on Upwork?" and "How do I get started?" and other generic questions, every 5 minutes. So, it's entirely appropriate to direct them to links where they can learn the basics. If you're embarking on a freelancing career, it's important to understand that the responsibility for success depends on you; it's your responsibility to figure things out, and not other people's responsibility to spoon-feed you the most basic information. If anyone has a specific question, on the other hand, the forum is  a great place to ask.

Hi Christine A

You are lucky enough that someone is calling you for support. Actually, everyone especially new freelancers call for support when they are not getting their first job. In my case I have sent 5 proposals and not got a single response in any type. In such cases new freelancers can only cry for support. No one is asking for spoon-feed but they are asking for support. You may advise them some way-out, you may guide them some ways to write proposals etc.

 

Here my first aim is to encourage you to support Newbies and my second aim is to encourage Newbies to get maximum knowledge from https://community.upwork.com/t5/Academy/ct-p/Academy

 

Best Regards,

Fazal Ahmed

Go back to the top post, read it and follow every link. You are at risk for being scammed because you haven't read or aren't following best practices. Do you know the Terms of Service? All the ins and outs of hourly vs. fixed price contracts? How to avoid scams? Then use the top post where all this and more waits to guide you.

 

The clients only see the top line of your introduction. Get rid of the graphics/emojis and learn how to have an excellent profile to attract clients and deter scammers.

I'm new to upwork, is there a nifty way to show a profile on the main page when searched

No. The profiles are on a rotating basis. That being said, no one knows the program behind the rotations and placements because some would cheat. Obviously they don't use the JSS, because I have found my profile many pages in, with many freelancers with less than 80% ahead of me consistently. It is not based on recent work, money earned, number of contracts, etc.

 

The search engines and best matches were changed, to the detriment of clients finding the right freelancers.

Yes, I have also noticed that many are ahead of me (have JSS of 93%) inspite of having very low JSS even one has 67% as well as many freelancers with lower earning than mine are ahead of me. 

23b5e584
Community Member

Same dear 

655be748
Community Member

Dear Riki:

Good question.. its some parameters that rank your profile. There are many peoples with same name, so you should work on your profile to get insight.

Regards.

Riki,

 

Please set your Profile to public so that it can be reviewed.

Maybe your title is too welcoming. Can you change it to "Freelancers: Instead of asking for my help, do this!"

 

Of course, that won't stop the ones that begin "I tried all that, but...."

I need help i'm new this site and i streesed where tobegan.

 

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