Mar 27, 2020 11:23:57 AM by KAREN S
Anyone know the procedure for filing for Unemployment Insurance as an Upwork Freelancer (US)?
Mar 27, 2020 12:18:29 PM by Phyllis G
Nobody knows yet. They just passed the bill today (and it still has to be signed into law by the President). This is the first time freelancers and self-employed people have been eligible for unemployment benefits, so I expect it's gonna take a minute for the states to figure out how to handle it.
Mar 27, 2020 12:22:13 PM Edited Mar 27, 2020 12:49:24 PM by Bojan S
I had spoken with an Upwork Representative earlier and the following is what I received:
**Edited for community guidelines**
Mar 27, 2020 06:23:29 PM by Kire T
I am wanting to apply for unemployment due to COVID-19; however, I know none of the freelancers on the site are actually employees of Upwork. I work solely on Upwork and work has slowed down a lot for me. I have also had clients cancel or place contracts on hold because of the outbreak. Which means I haven't made any money within the past 2 weeks.
We also aren't self-employed, so I can't even say I qualify for the stimulus package that way. Can anyone tell me the benefits of applying in the first place if we only work as freelancers? It feels like we're just doomed and being penalized for not being W-2 workers. I could be wrong, but any information you guys have would help.
Mar 27, 2020 08:43:23 PM by Eve S
COVID-19 relief is much better now. Praise your elected officials for understanding that all kinds of workers got laid off and need help. Go the Unemployment Insurance website for your state. Be ready to show how much you earned (gross income) -- in California they ask how much gross income you earned each quarter for the past 18 months. For Jan/Feb/March 2020 you would just show Jan/Feb and explain if needed that March is $0.
If you file a Schedule C with IRS 1040, you are "self employed" -- same if you are an independent contractor.
Apr 2, 2020 08:05:47 AM by Douglas Michael M
The best strategy may vary from state to state. In Connecticut, for example, there is an argument for submitting a regular claim, even as they have announced they will have to reprogram their system to accommodate the federal funds. I filed based on my sole outstanding contract's being explicitly suspended by the client because of COVID-related suspension of their field research.
Mar 31, 2020 06:34:00 AM Edited Mar 31, 2020 06:37:39 AM by Vladimir G
Hi Kire,
We see Eve responded to your questions and shared her advice (thanks Eve!).
For Kire and Karen,
While we can't advise on your questions, we wanted to share that Upwork is a founding partner of the Freelancers Relief Fund, run by the Freelancers Union’s nonprofit subsidiary, Working Today, to assist independent workers in the U.S. experiencing financial hardship as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The immediate goal is to raise $500,000 to provide small grants and other assistance for freelancers experiencing hardship. The fund is open to all freelancers in the U.S., with relief targeted toward helping freelancers pay for essential personal expenses including groceries, rent, and other household bills. The fund offers financial assistance of up to $1,000 per freelance household to cover lost income and essential personal expenses not covered by government relief programs, including food, utility payments, and cash assistance to cover income loss. To learn more visit https://www.freelancersunion.org/resources/freelancers-relief-fund/
Mar 31, 2020 06:58:35 AM by Petra R
Vladimir G wrote:.....The fund is open to all freelancers in the U.S.
That's nice 🙂 So much for global platform. Upwork's global freelancers made the platform what it is today....
I'm pretty much speechless.
Mar 31, 2020 07:04:16 AM by KAREN S
Apr 2, 2020 08:59:04 AM by Christine A
Petra R wrote:
Vladimir G wrote:.....The fund is open to all freelancers in the U.S.
That's nice 🙂 So much for global platform. Upwork's global freelancers made the platform what it is today....
I'm pretty much speechless.
I agree that it if Upwork is going to provide any assistance, it would be nice if it were available to all of their freelancers. It sounds like American freelancers are going to receive financial assistance anyway, so people in other countries might be much more in need of help.
Mar 31, 2020 06:42:16 AM by KAREN S
Mar 31, 2020 09:33:42 AM by Judith W M
Unfortunately, I'm getting a mixed message (bolded) from the CARES Act's list of those the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance will cover. We all have the ability to "telework for pay" -- in fact, that's the nature of our employment.
"Specifically, the CARES Act provides that a “covered individual” includes anyone who self-certifies that they are able and available to work but is unemployed or partially unemployed due to any of the following:
The Secretary of Labor may establish additional eligibility criteria as well. Importantly, the law not only applies to employees, but also to those who are self-employed (independent contractors). Individuals are not eligible for benefits if they have the ability to telework with pay or are receiving paid sick leave or other paid leave benefits.
Mar 31, 2020 09:56:16 AM by KAREN S
Apr 1, 2020 05:13:49 AM by Lees R
In the same way the terms "freelancer" and "self employed" are defined legally by whether you file your taxes with a 1040 Schedule C, the term "telework" is defined legally in the Telwork Enhancement Act and is outlined by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management at
https://www.opm.gov/faqs/topic/telework/index.aspx?page=1
"The Telework Enhancement Act defines telework or teleworking as a work flexibility arrangement under which an employee performs the duties and responsibilities of such employee's position, and other authorized activities, from an approved worksite other than the location from which the employee would otherwise work. In practice, telework is a work arrangement that allows an employee to perform work, during any part of regular, paid hours, at an approved alternative worksite (e.g. home or telework center)."
Since upwork independent contractors are not employees working from an approved worksite during regular, paid hours, you qualify for Pandemic unemployment insurance as a gig worker, again, as defined by your filing for taxes using a 1099.
Please note: the problem is not whether you qualify--you do--the problem is how you will "self certify" your earningins and whether that self certification will be accepted. If you listed your earnings on your 1040 for 2019, you will be fine. However, if you did not report your earnings, you will have screwed yourself because unlike many other online platforms that operate on the backs of gig workers, neither Upwork nor its workers issue workers a 1099, which is a crock of shot. You will need your schedule C.
Apr 1, 2020 05:52:16 AM by KAREN S
Apr 1, 2020 05:20:03 AM by Lees R
Upworkers do not "telework," and the lawmakers have designed a bill that does include us. Simply put, finding work online and telework are two legally distinct processes as noted by the government.
In the same way the terms "freelancer" and "self employed" are defined legally by whether you file your taxes with a 1040 Schedule C, the term "telework" is defined legally in the Telwork Enhancement Act and is outlined by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management at
https://www.opm.gov/faqs/topic/telework/index.aspx?page=1
"The Telework Enhancement Act defines telework or teleworking as a work flexibility arrangement under which an employee performs the duties and responsibilities of such employee's position, and other authorized activities, from an approved worksite other than the location from which the employee would otherwise work. In practice, telework is a work arrangement that allows an employee to perform work, during any part of regular, paid hours, at an approved alternative worksite (e.g. home or telework center)."
Since upwork independent contractors are not employees working from an approved worksite during regular, paid hours, you qualify for Pandemic unemployment insurance as a gig worker, again, as defined by your filing for taxes using a 1099.
To say this differently, Upworkers find work online, but they do not telework. They are gig workers that use online resources to find work, but they do not telework. The lawmakers understood that clients worldwide are impacted and that our income has plummeted, sometimes to zero. That is why they used a legal term in the CARES act.
NOW--THE BAD NEWS!!!!!!!!
Please note: the problem is not whether you qualify--you do--the problem is how you will "self certify" your earningins and whether that self certification will be accepted. If you listed your earnings on your 1040 for 2019, you will be fine. However, if you did not report your earnings, you will have screwed yourself because unlike many other online platforms that operate on the backs of gig workers, neither Upwork nor its workers issue workers a 1099, which is a crock of shot. You will need your schedule C.
Apr 1, 2020 05:55:16 AM by KAREN S
Apr 2, 2020 08:00:37 AM by Douglas Michael M
KAREN S wrote:
As I indicated earlier, I am in hopes Upwork Earnings Reporting will suffice for 2019, as my husband and I have not filedincome taxes as of yet. Upwork 2019 Earnings Report plus 2018 1040 C. Will that work to self certify??
Thanks!!
From everything I've read, no, as far as federal funds may (or may not) go. Why not file for 2019?
Apr 2, 2020 08:03:16 AM by KAREN S
Apr 2, 2020 08:06:52 AM by Lisa B
No, not June. The deadline for both federal and state is now July 15th.
Apr 2, 2020 08:07:46 AM by Douglas Michael M
KAREN S wrote:
The President gave an extension, so taxes are not due until mid June.
And...? Somehow that makes it easier to patch something together that you're not sure will work, vs. putting the effort into something that has been announced will work?
Apr 2, 2020 08:38:16 AM by KAREN S
Apr 2, 2020 11:06:21 AM by Douglas Michael M
KAREN S wrote:
My husband is in the Media. We require very specific tax serviceswhich require in person meeting. We are not choosing to do that at this time.Now, If the Certificate of Employment with my 2018 C will not work,then I suspect we will reconsider, or go a different route.
I have no State UI parameters for self certification at this time, as my state is awaiting guidancefrom the USDOL before proceeding.
Sorry, Karen, it was impertinent of me to ask about how you conduct your business. The most common recommendations for verifying Upwork income for a tax year are the Earnings by Client report (simpler) or the Transaction History (includes non-commission expenses like connects). Not sure if you mean Certificate of Employment or Certificate of Earnings. The latter has been repeatedly reported as not helpful in this context.