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Upwork Connects Calculation doesn't work

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MD. Atiqur R Member Since: Jul 6, 2014
1 of 25

Okay, so I have been working Upwork (Prev. oDesk) for more than 5 years. I have seen many changes over the years. Since when it started to reduce number of application someone can submit, I saw big improvements in projects availability. 

 

I believe most people used to post a job then forget. But because of the 2.5% fees, only serious buyers were active I believe.

 

But now, what happened is - I can see less number of jobs posted. Bogus amount and job length are added to a job.

 

For example, lets see the job post below:

 

**Edited for community guidelines**

 

So, this guy says his job is gonna be longer than 6 months and it requires 6 connects. I can guarantee you that this job will be ended in a week if he ends up hiring. He joined on upwork a year ago and spent only $900. He posted 10 jobs and hired 7 times. At an average, he pays around $120 per job. How come he hire a person for 6 months with this statistics?

 

Well, he is not alone! There are tons of clients like this. They don't really care about these terms.

 

Everyone is losing their connects unnecessarily. The new connects system is a trash and it actually #^&$. 

 

I started getting more response on another platform where only cheap freelancers used to work. But, I can guarantee you that TONS of clients are posting jobs or finding freelancers on another platform which might become the #1 Freelancing platform in a few years.


I request upwork management to make the platform freelance friendly. We understand you need to make money but isn't cutting off 22.5%  enough? Why do you have to trap us in the connects purchase hole?

 

I am truly disappointed. Losing my hopes over upwork.

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Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
2 of 25

Don't bid on it then?

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MD. Atiqur R Member Since: Jul 6, 2014
3 of 25

Your response doesn't make any sense. If I skip all the jobs then where do I bid? You are saying in such a way that someone got headache, you suggest him to cut his head!

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Will L Member Since: Jul 9, 2015
4 of 25

MD Atiqur R -

 

This is why I think the number of connects required for a freelancer's bid on a particular project should be based on some (weighted?) average value of that freelancer's previous projects on Upwork. That is likely a better predictor of the value of the future projects the freelancer will successfully bid on than for Upwork to try to design "connects needed" algorithms based on what clients say about their own projects. Especially when those algorithms so frequently come up with 6s.

 

But if the current new system of setting the connects is serving Upwork's primary stated goal - reducing the number of proposals submitted by freelancers on all new project - Upwork would see no reason for change.

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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
5 of 25

Will L wrote:

 

This is why I think the number of connects required for a freelancer's bid on a particular project should be based on some (weighted?) average value of that freelancer's previous projects on Upwork.


That would not work on so many levels.

It would result in the cheap-job freelancers having 3 times as many bids at their disposal as those who win the big contracts...

 

It would also mean that the freelancers bidding on the same job would get charged 3 different numbers of connects.

 

How would giving the very people whose proposals Upwork wants to curtail 3 times as many bids than those Upwork wants to encourage work?

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MD. Atiqur R Member Since: Jul 6, 2014
6 of 25

Mr Will L. 

 

My problem is - clients do not follow the metrics. And new clients don't even know how long a job would take to finish. So, they just put random number of months. Hence, the estimated connect system doesn't work.

 

And lastly, I believe job postings has been dropped in recent months!

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Pawan K Member Since: Jan 29, 2015
7 of 25

You are absolutely right! 
The system is not fair at all. No matter what we have to pay 6 connects for mostly every job and the worst thing is that back replied are not coming back from the clients end.

 

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
8 of 25

It's starting to seem like the best way to put to rest all this obsession with the way the number of connects required is calculated and freelancers expecting clients to tailor their postings to make the jobs less expensive to bid on would be to make all bids 6 connects with no regard to size, budget, etc. We went years with all bids requiring the same number of connects and rarely if ever heard complaints about it not being fair that smaller jobs cost the same as larger ones.

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Phyllis G Member Since: Sep 8, 2016
9 of 25

Agree with Tiffany. Meanwhile, everybody should just budget for six connects per proposal. And when one only costs two or four connects, consider you found 30 cents or 60 cents under the sofa cushion.

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MD. Atiqur R Member Since: Jul 6, 2014
10 of 25

How easy it is to say like this! Someone is expressing his frustation and you are kinda making fun out of it! Interesting!

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