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Upwork is becoming a scam site I just had a nightmare experience on UpWork plateform

m_terrazas
Community Guru
Maria T Member Since: Nov 12, 2015
11 of 15

Adnane B wrote:
Unfortunately, you response is missing the most important part. The scam
occurred while the job was an activated proposal.
By saying that it was my mistake you deny the responsibility of UpWork on
hiding scammers in the platform. And you also deny the fact that I have
been victim to a scam in the UpWork platform.
A scam is a scam, wether it occurred during an active proposal or not.
Also, the coding online platform used to code the pre-hire challenge was a
link released in the messaging platform that UpWork dedicated to this job.
How I am supposed to be protected in this case? There’s no way for me to
know your client bad intentions and don’t give him the means to use me
without a signed contract.
Ps: in order to get a job you impose to us to disclose coding skills to the
hiring counterparts. And this is exactly the vulnerability of UpWork
business pipeline..
You job as a support should be to remote this informations to your business
intelligence teams so they can understand how deeply disturbing and
unlawful it is as a practice.

Again thank you for you time.
Respectfully,

Sorry, but my English is not very good and I can't understand much what you are saying.
That there are scammers, it is true, on both sides, clients and freelancers.
That you are the one who has to learn to discover them, too.
As much as you had an "active proposal", that is not a contract, therefore Upwork cannot do anything, no matter what you do.
If you decided to do the job without a contract, it's a risk you decided to take, but it went wrong.

colettelewis
Community Guru
Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
12 of 15

Adnane B wrote:
Unfortunately, you response is missing the most important part. The scam
occurred while the job was an activated proposal.
By saying that it was my mistake you deny the responsibility of UpWork on
hiding scammers in the platform. And you also deny the fact that I have
been victim to a scam in the UpWork platform.
A scam is a scam, wether it occurred during an active proposal or not.
Also, the coding online platform used to code the pre-hire challenge was a
link released in the messaging platform that UpWork dedicated to this job.
How I am supposed to be protected in this case? There’s no way for me to
know your client bad intentions and don’t give him the means to use me
without a signed contract.
Ps: in order to get a job you impose to us to disclose coding skills to the
hiring counterparts. And this is exactly the vulnerability of UpWork
business pipeline..
You job as a support should be to remote this informations to your business
intelligence teams so they can understand how deeply disturbing and
unlawful it is as a practice.

Again thank you for you time.
Respectfully,

_______________________

It is you who have missed the point. Without a formal contract in place, Upwork can do nothing about the work you have done. The client conned you and you fell for it. If you had insisted on a contract before delivering the work, this probably would not have happened.  

 

Scamming exists everywhere, not just on Upwork, and in freelancing it is an occupational hazard and we as freelancers must always be wary. This is why Upwork strongly advises not to to do any work before a contract is agreed. An invitation, or interest from a client, is not an official contract. 

 

basoftwares
Active Member
Adnane B Member Since: May 22, 2020
13 of 15
Yes I agree with you on what you say. It’s just that I feel so upset that
your people don’t Flagg him and remove him from the platform. And on my
side I will have to continue using UpWork for showing good intentions while
learning from this situation and paying more attention to scammers tricks.
Thank you for being rational
m_terrazas
Community Guru
Maria T Member Since: Nov 12, 2015
14 of 15

Adnane B wrote:
Yes I agree with you on what you say. It’s just that I feel so upset that
your people don’t Flagg him and remove him from the platform. And on my
side I will have to continue using UpWork for showing good intentions while
learning from this situation and paying more attention to scammers tricks.
Thank you for being rational

I don't know if you are answering me.

You are talking to freelancers like you (except Valeria who does work for Upwork), that the only thing they are trying to do is help, but you have stuck to your point of view and so you will not be able to advance.
Upwork does not automatically create a contract. We would be good if it were so!
You "sign" the contract, establish your price and the other conditions that should bring it to fruition.
If there is NO CONTRACT, you can't expect anything from Upwork. Only they check the client if you mark him.

kochubei_valeria
Community Manager
Valeria K Community Manager Member Since: Mar 6, 2014
15 of 15

All,

 

This thread has been closed from further replies.

 

Adnane,

 

I encourage you to check out our Freelancer Manual to learn more about getting started, interviewing, and managing contracts on Upwork, as well as this post by Vladimir about staying safe on Upwork. I will share your report about the client asking you to complete a trial task with the team and they'll further review that. 

 

I would also like to reiterate that without an official contract, which is created once the freelancer accepts the offer from the client and which would show under My Jobs tab on the freelancer's account, the freelancer cannot get paid or qualify for Upwork Payment protection. That's why, it's best if the freelancer only starts working on the project once they accept the offer. 

~ Valeria
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