Nov 18, 2019 09:55:10 PM by Amanda L
Nov 18, 2019 09:12:59 PM by Aileen C
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Nov 18, 2019 09:37:05 PM by Amanda L
Threatening to leave you a bad review in return for a refund is against TOS. Report her and show the evidence she has said this.
Let her dispute the payment. If you were on an hourly contract, kept meaningful memos, and have proof of her emails assigning the work, then you are covered. Do not work for free and do not issue a refund.
How much money are we talking about? If you go to a dispute, you can hopefully come to an amicable solution or possibly she'll back off. Since she's threatened you and made a TOS violation, it's likely she could be suspended and then it's a moot question. Report her and go through the legitimate steps, I would not issue a refund, and I would tell her to open up an official dispute.
Also flagging for a moderator.
Nov 18, 2019 09:50:04 PM Edited Nov 19, 2019 12:23:02 AM by Avery O
Thank you so much for your response and help. Here are the words of the
client
**edited for Community Guidelines**
But upon looking at the email of the task it was for new hire and I’m the
new hire and it’s complete with instructions and links.
Nov 18, 2019 09:52:42 PM Edited Nov 18, 2019 09:56:09 PM by Preston H
Aileen:
This client is being a bully and a bad person, in addition to clearly violating Upwork TOS. I am sorry that you are facing this situation and I really hope Upwork will intervene on your behalf.
The fact that this client either:
- is trying to get free work from you
or
- has no idea how to use Upwork properly
...should not become your problem.
Nov 18, 2019 09:55:10 PM by Amanda L
Aileen C wrote:
Thank you so much for your response and help. Here are the words of the
client
We are giving a 1-star review and reporting to Upwork.
All refunds have been requested. If we do not receive the refunds for the
work we did not assign to you, we will leave a negative review and involve
Upwork.
But upon looking at the email of the task it was for new hire and I’m the
new hire and it’s complete with instructions and links.
Doesn't matter if she sent you the wrong email. She had time to dispute your hours and didn't. She's just trying to get free work out of you by threatening you. Stand your ground.
Nov 19, 2019 12:10:43 AM Edited Nov 19, 2019 12:24:56 AM by Petra R
Aileen C wrote:based on my understanding the client wants a refund outside of upwork and if i don't give it within a week she'll then involve upwork...correct me if i'm wrong though...and thank you everyone for all the help
That would be a violation of the terms of service... it actually also begins to sound like potentially a scam.
Personally, I would get proactive and involve Upwork right away.
Were your working hours logged properly (tracked, with meaningful memos and so on?)
Also, you are top rated, so unless you have used your top rated feedback removal perk in the last 3 months and 10 contracts, you can remove any bad feedback that client would give you anyway
Nov 18, 2019 10:15:15 PM by Petra R
It actually does not matter what is fair and what isn't. It also doesn't matter if the client is a bad person or a saint.
All that matters is what the client can actually DO about it and what you can do about it.
The client can request mediation for the last 30 days prior to the day she goes to Upwork.
If it is an hourly contract, all Upwork will look at is the following:
Demanding a refund by threatening bad feedback is actually a violation of Upwork's terms of service, so I'd at this point get pro-active and report the client.
I'd certainly NOT refund, neither in installments nor all at once.
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