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robertess
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Greetings.     I know I write well and have experience in many facets lof manufacturing and do very well in understanding what other poeple write. My problem would be that I don't have experience with this kind of work, so how would I convince a prospect that you can do the job. How do I get started?

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pandoraharper
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@Robert S wrote:

Greetings.     I know I write well and have experience in many facets lof manufacturing and do very well in understanding what other poeple write. My problem would be that I don't have experience with this kind of work, so how would I convince a prospect that you can do the job. How do I get started?


What kind of service do you actually plan to offer? Why would you want offer a service you have no experience with? Unless perhaps, you mean that you do not have experience being a remote freelancer. If that is the case, I suspect that your level of English communication needs work.

 

In addition, I don't think your current country of residence is the United States. If I'm wrong, prove it by adding a properly written Profile overview.

 

Your profile is completely empty of your hourly rate, experience, test results, education, and Photo.

 

Get started by filling out your profile. Read the Upwork Forums, the Freelancer Support Pages, and watch some of the training videos.

 

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mariawicz5
Community Guru

This is a platform for professional freelancers who are experienced in their respective fields, so you're going to have a hard time competing with experts.

pandoraharper
Community Guru

@Robert S wrote:

Greetings.     I know I write well and have experience in many facets lof manufacturing and do very well in understanding what other poeple write. My problem would be that I don't have experience with this kind of work, so how would I convince a prospect that you can do the job. How do I get started?


What kind of service do you actually plan to offer? Why would you want offer a service you have no experience with? Unless perhaps, you mean that you do not have experience being a remote freelancer. If that is the case, I suspect that your level of English communication needs work.

 

In addition, I don't think your current country of residence is the United States. If I'm wrong, prove it by adding a properly written Profile overview.

 

Your profile is completely empty of your hourly rate, experience, test results, education, and Photo.

 

Get started by filling out your profile. Read the Upwork Forums, the Freelancer Support Pages, and watch some of the training videos.

 

brianajross
Community Leader

Writing is probably one of those fields like graphic design, which is what I do, where freelancing is not the place for beginners. Freelancing is what professionals do after they have years of experience and they know enough about their field that they can go out on their own. I've seen way too many people who freelance as their first job and they don't even know how to approach a client or the logical steps it takes to complete a project, and they turn up on internet forums asking what format to submit a logo in. It's just laughable. If you're asking a basic question, like whether you should work in a your field as a freelancer without having any experience, then you already don't know enough about your field to be an independent contractor.

 

Also, based on what your wrote in your post, you should not be offering services as a writer (unless you want to write in a language other than English and can do it very well), because the writing in your post is poor. I'm not saying this to be rude, I'm saying this to prevent a situation where a client on UpWork actually hires you, you spend hours on the job, and then the client refuses to pay you because the work is subpar. I've seen too many posts on UpWork describing this type of scenario.

versailles
Community Guru

@Robert S wrote:

Greetings.     I know I write well and have experience in many facets lof manufacturing and do very well in understanding what other poeple write. My problem would be that I don't have experience with this kind of work, so how would I convince a prospect that you can do the job. How do I get started?


It's a good thing that you do very well in understanding what other people write. I don't see how to market that skill, though.

 

Your English level is probably native, not conversational, as indicated in your profile.

 

Other that that, I'm afraid that your profile doesn't demonstrate any skills or value that a client may need over here.

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niag
Community Guru

I must respectfully disagree with those saying that this platform is only for professionals and those who have already established themselves, etc. Of course, you should have professionalism and at least a basic knowledge of how to interact with clients.

 

But I know for a fact that several folks have become successful on this platform with little to no professional experience. If a person is willing to put in the work, do the research, adapt, adjust and translate any previous experience into value for potential clients, it can work for them. 

 

Of course, it's not ideal if a person is dependent on income from the platform since this takes time. However, it is not impossible nor is it a waste of time or effort, if you can clearly state what you do and the value that you bring to the table. 

Nia, I agree with the spirit of your post for sure. People who are new to the platform are surely very different than people who are new to the specific type of work they are offering on the platform. But, in certain cases (like writing, design, and other fields that benefit greatly from training and/or hands-on experience) getting some real-world experience under your belt before trying your hand at it on Upwork is a big help. Not only can you list that experience in your profile to lend legitimacy to your online presence, but you have a foundation on which to build here on the platform. OP said he didn't have experience with this work in the past, so some experience off-platform would be great in this case. 

 

Your advice about it taking time is right on. It's rarely an instant revenue generator and shouldn't be thought of as such, otherwise disappointment is right around the corner. 

Hi Melissa,

 

I absolutely agree that some experience is a big help.

 

What I was disagreeing with is the idea that it's absolutely necessary as some have said or implied. That's a discouraging thought IMO and one that's not correct. Though it is harder to get started without experience, a person can win clients without it (even in fields like the ones that you mentioned). 

 

But I totally agree with all that you said 😉

 

 

High-five, Nia! 🙂

Robert,

 

You are not quite hitting the mark by saying you have no experience. You have plenty of experience, but you need to channel it to fit your current interests and to write your overview accordingly.

 

If genealogy is your special interest, for example,  and you can offer a service by researching other people's ancestry, then go for it, but make sure you can deliver what you offer (lots of research!) and that you get paid correctly for the work.


@Nia G wrote:

I must respectfully disagree with those saying that this platform is only for professionals and those who have already established themselves, etc. Of course, you should have professionalism and at least a basic knowledge of how to interact with clients.


A breath of fresh air, you are.  I can't speak for ALL of the established freelancers, but I think it's fair to say that many of us with 5+ years of freelancing did not start out established.

 

Yes, it helps if your corporate skill set translates into a remote contractor scenario, but not everyone wants to get into the same grind for another 10 years.

 

I will readily admit that while my corporate experience gave me work ethics and communication skills, initially I had no idea how to make freelancing into the small business owner I am today.

 

I gave up a successful career in IT management for the life of a full time freelancer. Haven't done 1 single hour of tech support for a single client. I've switched my primary focus twice while on Upwork.

 

I think a lot of new folks get into this business, with great intentions, but they need time to adapt. Their reasons for getting out of the rate race are varied. Most certainly though, how many people can say they are doing the same thing, 5 years down the road, as when they started?

 

I think that good work ethics, basic communication skills and a couple of general skill sets can get one started on Upwork. The rest happens with time, dedication to the craft, and hard work.

 

 

Thank you very much! Sounds like you are living proof of the exact thing that I'm talking about. I agree with all that you said. 

 

Honestly, though I am not aiming this comment at anyone who's commented on this, I think that there is a stigma among experienced Upworkers. Perhaps some feel that freelancing newbies are negatively impacting the marketplace because they have lower rates or some similar reason, so it's better not to have them here at all.

 

But that really should make no difference. The newbies can take the clients that are looking for quick, low-priced work and the more experienced can win over those who want quality and are willing to pay more for it. There's little to no competition in that (between the experienced and inexperienced).

 

All my rambling is just to say that there is a place here for everyone who is willing to work for their place here.

cupidmedia
Community Guru

Robert: with your extensive real-world experience in manufacturing and production, I think you could market yourself here as a consultant in those areas. If you want to do this, you should focus your profile on that particular skill. Look at other freelancers who offer similar services. Do some research.

 

 

Alternatively, if you've had enough of manufacturing and production and wish to do something as a hobby that is interesting to you and may also earn you a bit of cash, then you could focus your profile around your genealogy skills instead and offer your services as a genealogy researcher. Again, you should look at other freelancers in this area, and do some general research around how to market yourself.

 

In any case, I recommend that you choose one particular skill and focus on that to start with. For someone like you who doesn't have experience as a freelancer, you're generally better off starting focused and then broadening the services you offer once you're established.

 

You should also change your language level. If you have been in the USA for as long as your work history and education suggest you should be fluent at minimum. If you were born in the USA (I'm sorry, I don't want to assume either way), then you should list your language skill as Native.

 

I don't want to give you false hope - it *is* hard to start out here. But with a bit of focus and research around marketing yourself as a freelancer, you might be able to get your foot in the door and then get established. Good luck!

 

(Pandora: I know you have doubts about the OP's English level and therefore location but honestly, he writes so much like my Dad that I believe him 🙂 )


@Jennifer D wrote:

(Pandora: I know you have doubts about the OP's English level and therefore location but honestly, he writes so much like my Dad that I believe him 🙂 )


Noted! Perhaps I was a bit harsh. 😞 Not my norm, but I think we have a full moon or something. Today has felt all kinds of wrong.

 

I really, really like your write-up about his possible manufacturing skills. I WANTED to say something about that in my reply, but do not have any related experience and did not think I was qualifed to address that topic.

 

I do however, belive that the OP implied he's new to FREELANCING...which means he does probably have any number of skills, we just don't know what they are yet, heh.

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