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What the heck is up with some of these job postings

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Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
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I am seeing a ton of job postings for Virtual Assistants wanting copywrite skills, content writing skills, transcription, and a gazillion other skills. I am not understanding how some of these companies can expect one person to have the skills they are asking for. 

 

What is worse I am seeing people applying for these jobs. These tend to be jobs that are new on the platform with no feedback.

 

Does someone really think they are going to find one person with all of the skills they list?

 

One job had this and a bunch more skills listed * note - this list was not copied per se from a job posting. I edited it and changed part of it to conform to forum rules.

 

Copywriting
Scheduling clients
Product creation
Google Analytics and data analysis
Proof Reading
newsletter management
WordPress
 Project management - retreats/workshops/online launch
Content creation
Social media management
Social Media campaigns
Online course content creation
 Building an active online community
Article Submission
Public Relations

Google docs
Transcription services
Creating memes
Creating forms
Online marketing

 

This one also had a bunch of programs you HAD to have skills in .. Are they being realistic here or just hoping they are going to find that magical person who has all these skills?

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Lyam B Member Since: Nov 3, 2014
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I've seen them in the past. I think it's exploitation in a way. They want a VA who can also code their website, do this, do that, etc...

 

It's probably cheaper to advertise for a PA and have them do more pricey jobs. 

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Robert James R Member Since: Apr 17, 2015
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I presume those who got hired are paid at least $25/hour if they have ALL those skills and are using them on daily basis. 

 

If they're not then LOL

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Ronald T Member Since: Sep 14, 2009
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Is there a recognized job description for a "Virtual Assistant"? (For instance, in an occupational handbook or other recognized documentation). There might be, but I don't recall ever seeing one. So what it means is that it is typically the role of an "assistant" working in the "virtual world" (That is, on-line via the Internet).

 

Regardless whether the role is that of an assistant, secretary, or something similar, the hiring party reserves the option to define their own job description for the position. I know many personal assistants, secretaries, and persons working in similar roles that possess all of the skills listed in the original thread.

 

One such person that I know started as a "sales assistant," worked her way up to "Sales Manager," and today is the same company's "Vice President of Sales" (from $27,000 per year to over $60,000 per year over a period of about 12 years). As a "sales assistant," she was way ahead of her "job title"; often taking on the work of managers, engineers, and other salaried personnel. Of course, earning her B.A. from a highly reputable college did have a lot to do with her career success.

 

Admittedly, there are not very many persons that do possess all of the listed skills -- especially on this platform. Nonetheless, such persons do exist -- even on this platform. 

 

I do, however, recognize the points made in the original thread. Thus, I agree with Suzanne in that context.

 

Even in the "corporate world" employers might downplay a job ad using a lessor title in order to justify their low-balling of offers for salaries and benefits. On this platform, clients are more apt to make gross attempts to "exploit" freelancers (agreeing with Lyam's comments about "exploitation").

Ron aka LanWanMan
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Santiago G Member Since: Mar 10, 2015
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Wow.... how's that for timing?!! I spotted a freelancer applying for a writing job last night (my time zone). That's fine and dandy and all, except his profile (from the popup description only) says he's a VA with no mention of the various writing skills!! Yup, it works both ways!!

 

Yes, the others here have it right also. Anyone can go "multi-mode" with their work. I do it all the time as a writer, programmer, PC repair technician, gamer, farmer, demolition work, and others. In my case, I do some of the things I just listed here on UpWork, and the rest just show up at my door anyway. Ah, the "joys" of freelancing !! Smiley LOL

 

In any case, the last I knew, any freelancer here or elsewhere could do basically whatever catches their attention at any given time. So meeting someone with most, if not all the skills that Suzanne listed shouldn't be impossible. But that would be a much more realistic reason why a client would post that kinda job.

 

Impossible? Not really. Cheap? Not if said freelancer had any common sense / brains / self worth!!

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Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
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I am not saying someone may not have all the skills. I had a wide variety of skills. Some not listed in my profile. I choose to narrow down my skillset although I still offer a large variety of skills.

 

I can do web design but I don't want to do it. I know how to do graphic design, but I again choose not to do it. I have agricultural skills and even have college courses to back those up, although they won't do me much good freelancing unless someone wants skills in horticulture or animal husbandry. Smiley Tongue I have to say though one of my jobs my farm skills did pay off because I am dealing with customers all day that are rural and farm owners. But it is not something you are going to find generally.

 

The problem is most of the jobs I have seen posted like this (and I have seen a lot of them recently) are wanting skills they don't want to pay for. They want to hire someone for peanuts and expect they have these skills.

 

I have no complaints if they were willing to pay big bucks but someone who has all those skills would rate up there with programmers. And I haven't seen to many of Upwork willing to pay those kind of prices for a Virtual Assistant.

 

Santiago kudos on farming skills!

 

 

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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I don't think it is smart from a business perspective. I prefer working with top specialists rather than generalists. But I really don't see anything inherently wrong or unethical about these types of job postings. They're hourly jobs.

I'm certain there are lots of contractors who enjoy these types of jobs.
Nobody is forced to apply to these jobs or continue doing them if they don't like the job.
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Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
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Preston,

 

I know there are a lot of people who apply for these jobs my biggest complaint is a lot of these jobs are putting it under Expert and if they have any history of payment have $3 an hour avg or they have no history at all and put it under Intermediate offering low wages expecting to pay a virtual assistant pricing much much lower then would be expected for the list of requirements they have.

 

I found out something interesting yesterday and if I am wrong someone please let me know but a client was talking to me and stated Upwork has a job drop down to select from types of jobs and they are listed under specfic categories whether they are entry level, expert or Intermediate. So some jobs may be being miscategorized just because of this.

 

 

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Sara P Member Since: Jul 22, 2010
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In my opinion, it's simply spam.

Especially since they are almost all published by fresh new users...

My (not so) wild guess: they are being posted just to attract new subscribers through traffic from search engines for job listings.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "In my opinion, it's simply spam."


Maybe. I don't know. Maybe some are, some aren't.

 

My thought is this:

These jobs and clients should be dealt with based not on us trying to nitpick how many skills is too many to require in one job posting, but based on the client's behavior and track record.

 

If a client is posting jobs like this AND ACTUALLY HIRING people, and there don't seem to be any problems with the client/contractor relationships, let them post their jobs, however ridiculous we might think their requirements are.

 

If they have 20 skills listed, and they pay a contractor for 5 hours of work, that contractor was paid for 5 hours, regardless of what they did. I doubt they used all 20 skills during that 5 hours. If they did, then that's cool.

 

But if the client is posting jobs and never hiring, then they need to be kicked off the system, no matter how appropriate their job postings seem.

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