@Enes T wrote:
You've said that for you a funded milestone is good enough.
I said "For me personally" after I advised to tell the client you start once it's verified. maybe your potential client just wanted to work specifically with you (your profile is impressive!) and rather than turning it down maybe telling him you'll accept once the verification is completed would have been more profitable?
I didn't turn it down.
I told them Upwork requires for them to verify their payment method before any work can commence.
They haven't verified it yet.
But, i think the main point in all of this is why Upwork would allow for clients to be able to make offers without having verified payment method, allowing them to dodge Escrow secured payments all together?
A client is able to fund a milestone before their credit card verification is completed. Freelancers will see Escrow pending in these cases. Freelancers can then choose to accept a contract while Escrow funds are pending, but we do not recommend working on the contract until the payment method is verified and Escrow is formally funded. Recall, Fixed-Price Protection is available only when the payment method is verified. This is why freelancers are not obligated to begin working on a project until the payment method is verified.
That is so back-to-front. "Funded" should mean just that . . . the funds are there and available when the work has been completed. We shouldn't have to sift through the fine print; there shouldn't be any fine print.
Great stuff, Setu, and I agree completely. I love working with new clients, they're usually enthusiastic. As has been mentioned: They often do need a little hand-holding, but my own experiences with brand new clients have been great.
I submit a proposal whenever I see a job I'm interested in (=have the skills to do it/would like to work on it) - I don't care if the client is new, if there's 10 or 20 proposals already, etc. My "Marketing effectiveness" stats show me that my strategy is not wrong.
It's not only that the "Payment Method Not Verified", but what about "No Location" being shown.
I recently withdrew and flagged a job posting, because of the invitation received. And yes, the "Payment Method Not Verified" and showed "No Location", as well.
The invitation was:
1) Not an Hourly Job, nor was it forTyping PDF files, but rather $20 for 1000 entries, but would only pay after 5000 entries
2) Mandatory to download software, which usualy is blocked by my Norton software
3) They wanted payment method sent to a "gmail" account, not to mention offering various methods of payment
4) The real clincher, the FAKE name, they have on their account
I applied when there were approximately 40 - 46 bidders. At the time I received the interview there were 120 bidders. Job Posting still shows, but with 0 bidders.
And yes, it is possible to have Payment Methods Verified, before any Client hires a Freelancer.
Out of 20 job postings, here are 10 no hires (was careful not to include Client ID number):
3 with Verified, only 1 with a Location (Blue Outlined)
7 Not Verified, only 1 with a Locatoin (Red Outlined - Location, all others Not Outlined)