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Igor K Community Member

Withdrawn by you: Job application is cancelled by Upwork

I just found out that my 3(first) proposals were withdrawn with status "Withdrawn by you: Job application is cancelled by Upwork" and i don't quite understand what that supposed to mean, does anyone know?

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Ali's avatar
Ali A Community Member

Hi Tara,

 

Upwork provides all the good support and services to freelancers, they are treated possibly the best and what I'm referring for you is to apply for jobs you think you're perfect at. There's no chance of seeing your proposals withdrawn if you have provided the best portfolio samples.

 

Unfortunately, You won't receive the perspective connects back once the proposals are gone from submitted proposals list. You will keep receiving your monthly connects, I would suggest you for a new profile picture as you can see here or try to improve your profile overview and details properly.

 

Thank you.


“Good reputation is more valuable than money.” - Publilius Syrus
Tara's avatar
Tara K Community Member

I am not talking about clients declining my proposals - I understand that is part of the process. I am talking about Upwork withdrawing my applications due to me needing to verify my profile vis video. I have no problem verifying my information, but I do have a problem with Upwork withdrawing my proposals (not the client) without notifying me when I have done nothing wrong. 

Valeria's avatar
Valeria K Community Member

Tara and Jake,

 

We currently are experiencing issues with proposals. We'll update you directly via the existing tickets about the proposals that were withdrawn.

 

Thank you.

~ Valeria
Upwork
Pandora's avatar
Pandora H Community Member

@Valeria

 

Tara's post implies that she was one of the users selected for Video Chat verification, and as a consequence, had some proposals removed because of the Video Chat account hold phase.

 

This "proposal issue" has been reported by dozens of people in the main Video Chat thread, but somehow, Tara made it here to the main Forums, and this particular thread, which is actually mostly about the same problem she's reporting.

 

 

Valeria's avatar
Valeria K Community Member

Pandora,

 

Tara's proposals were withdrawn due to a different issue. The team is addressing it via her ticket.

~ Valeria
Upwork
Pandora's avatar
Pandora H Community Member


@Valeria K wrote:

Pandora,

 

Tara's proposals were withdrawn due to a different issue. The team is addressing it via her ticket.



My mistake! And thanks for your other update about the other proposal problem 🙂

Tara's avatar
Tara K Community Member

Update: It appears Upwork has restored my lost connects! 

Pandora's avatar
Pandora H Community Member


@Tara K wrote:

Update: It appears Upwork has restored my lost connects! 


 Glad to hear that, Tara. Good luck with job hunting.

RuDee Sade's avatar
RuDee Sade L Community Member

I want to confirm that I've experienced this same, really frustrating, issue. 

 

About half of my proposals sent between September 16th and today were involuntarily archived with this same note in the "Withdrawn" field. 

I spend a lot of time on these and work hard to submit them at the first hours of a project opening. This is truly disheartening and to not be notified and only find out because I happened to look into "Archives". That's really rough. 

Please advise. 

Valeria's avatar
Valeria K Community Member

We do have a known issue that affects some user's proposals when they are asked to complete video verification. You appear to have been affected by it, RuDee. We'll have the ticket you have about this issue escalated and addressed.

 

Sorry about the inconvenience.

~ Valeria
Upwork
RuDee Sade's avatar
RuDee Sade L Community Member

Hi Valeria,


I appreciate your reply. 

 

I haven't had any notification through Email or Upwork message about needing video verification. Researching this thread is the first I have ever heard of this, even after speaking with Support today. 

 

I'm happy to comply with the request but it's not been made known to me at all outside of your post. 

 

Also, this has only impacted about 50% of the bids, the rest have gone through with no issue. 

 

Please advise. Thank you. 

Valeria's avatar
Valeria K Community Member

Sorry about the confusion, RuDee. I see you aren't currently required to complete profile verification. We'll investigate what happened and get back to you directly.

~ Valeria
Upwork
RuDee Sade's avatar
RuDee Sade L Community Member

Appreciate the update, Valeria. I will very much look forward to getting those proposals seen by clients. 

 

Thanks

RuDee Sade's avatar
RuDee Sade L Community Member

Hi Valeria,

 

I've been notified it's an engineering issue.

 

I am concerned about how this is appearing on the client's side. Many of these involuntarily archived proposals are from bids I sent out 2 days ago. 

 

Does it display to the client as if I've voluntarily withdrawn my bid? 

 

Did my bid just simply disappear from their screen? 

 

I understand technical issues happen but I am concerned about the impact it's making on my presentation. If they didn't see it all, that's one thing. But if it looks like I've withdrawn only to re apply when the engineering team gets to my ticket in the queue...

 

That's a really bad look.

 

Please advise. 

Tim's avatar
Tim K Community Member

Dear Valeria,

 

The same happened to me today. Many of my proposals were cancelled for the account verification proces. One of my interviews was with a very promising client for whom I made alot of concepts already. Hard enough as it is to get a first job on upwork, I am afraid I lost it.  Could you please look into my case as well? 

 

This is a really bad issue. I really advise the engineering team to put this issue on the top of the priority list as you are angering both freelancers and clients. Good luck

 

best regards,

Tim

Tim's avatar
Tim K Community Member

Today I received an email that my profile was suspended because it had to be verified (wierd on its own). All I had to do was initiate a video chat with someone from Upwork to verify my profile and re-activate it. To my greatest surprise all my proposals were withdrawn and that while I did not violate any terms or agreements. one of these included an active interview for a client for whom I put ALOT of time into making concepts and drafts to get hired (first job on Upwork).  I send an email to Upwork and I am praying my client is not walking away because of this.

 

Suspending my account out of the blue for verification purposes is wierd on its own. If they want to verifiy the authenticity why can't I have a heads up in advance? In addition, please fix these site bugs. It is hard enough as it is to get a first job and now I can potentially lose it.

 

EDIT: apologies, just found a thread from someone with the same problem

João's avatar
João P Community Member

"one of these included an active interview for a client for whom I put ALOT of time into making concepts and drafts to get hired (first job on Upwork"

Hi Tim,
Hopefully Upwork can solve your problem soon. But the sentence above caugh my attention. I know that landing your first job on Upwork is great, and everyone wants that first chance. But I sincerely hope that you're not providing free work (even if just drafts or concepts) without getting paid for your time. Not only it devaluates your work and time but also everyone else. Your portfolio and qulifications should be more than enough to hire you. And a client can always set a smaller task and test you. You get paid for your time and skills and the client can have a clear idea if you're a right fit for the job.

Good luck on getting more jobs and welcome to Upwork

Valeria's avatar
Valeria K Community Member

Tim and RuDee,

 

Unfortunately, we can't restore the proposals. This issue has been given high priority and is currently being fixed by our engineers. You can re-apply to the job and continue discussing the job with the client.

 

Sorry about the interruption.

~ Valeria
Upwork
Monika's avatar
Monika L Community Member

This same issue has just happened to me.  Despite having submitted all of my information, I was picked for video verification and all my submissions were canceled.  I only found this out because one of the potential clients sent me a message saying there were very sorry I withdrew the proposal as I was the best candidate and they were about to hire me when I withdrew my application.  This cost me an actual job and withdrew 8 proposals as well.  I am very unhappy - this is unreasonable and these cancellations make me look unreliable!.  

 

Please address this issue as soon as possible, and give us some way to inform our potential clients what happened.

 

Finally, in the message at the top of the canceled proposals:

 

Withdrawn Proposal

 
Withdrawn by you: Job application is cancelled by Upwork
 
Canceled is misspelled as "cancelled."  There are some excellent proofreaders here on Upwork that could catch things like that.  
 
Please let me know when some sort of resolution is reached and connects are reimbursed.
 
Thank you,
 
Monika L
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Pandora H Community Member


@Monika L wrote:

I only found this out because one of the potential clients sent me a message saying there were very sorry I withdrew the proposal as I was the best candidate and they were about to hire me when I withdrew my application.  This cost me an actual job and withdrew 8 proposals as well.  I am very unhappy - this is unreasonable and these cancellations make me look unreliable!.  

 


 Monika, I am very sorry to hear you lost that job opportunity. I've been fairly vocal in other threads about the problem you encountrered, but let me say I agree that cancelling proposals during the voice chat verification phase is a horrible tactic.

 

Also, I want to say that if you actually got a MESSAGE from that client, that message, should in theory, still be in your Upwork Message Center. I am not 100% of that, because your situation is a little different then the norm, but it might be worth going to your Upwork Message Center and seeing if that message is still there.

 

I mention this because your message does not say that you were unable to reply to them, and if there is a chance you can still get this job, then I say message them back, if you can.

Monika's avatar
Monika L Community Member

The message from the potential client:

 

Were you still interested on working on this? I saw that you withdraw your application.
I don't have any ideas at this point.
I already hired another freelance for the job because I thought you didn't want to apply.

 

 

She was going to hire me but when she thought I withdrew the offer, she hired someone else.  Her message is what led me to see 8 offers were canceled and 16 credits were lost.  

Michelle's avatar
Michelle R Community Member

When I joined I submitted several proposals.
I received a positive response for one, interviewed successfully and have now joined the clients team on Upwork. There seemed to be problem in the system when I did this though and for two days it seemed my acceptance to join his team had not gone through properly.


Meanwhile I didn't hear back from two of the other proposals, but I've just checked my Proposals status and it says I withdrew these proposals, which I didn't - This means the jobs will have certainly gone by now, so a waste of time too. This is a frustrating UX.


Please can you advise how do I ensure this doesn't happen again - I have not cancelled any proposals, yet the system has - and I didn't know about it either. There are no notifications or history to show this, which would be useful? 
Thx

Valeria's avatar
Valeria K Community Member

Hi Monica,

 

Sorry about the frustration you've experienced. We'll have somebody follow up with you directly and escalate your concern to our engineers. We currently are having a technical issue that causes some proposals to be cancelled automatically. 

~ Valeria
Upwork
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RuDee Sade L Community Member

 
RuDee Sade's avatar
RuDee Sade L Community Member

Hi Valeria,

A note that my case has nothing do to with ID verification so is distinct from others in the thread. The bids just...vanished with no reason given except an engineering issue.

My question hasn't quite been answered. To clients does it look like I voluntarily withdrew my application? Or did my bid simply vanish on their end, too.

Also the Archived proposals are still included in the number reported in "My Stats" and are messing up my averages as compared to others in my category. Will I continue to be penalized for this random glitch?

This is...this is not good 😕

Thank you for your time