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martina_plaschka
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Martina P Member Since: Jul 11, 2018
11 of 20

Mary W wrote:

Martina, in the US you really need the approval of the person being checked.  It's a huge privacy issue, although if you know how you can run the court records for a particular court without permission.

 

OP- the more I think about this, the less I like it.  I've actually applied for US Government jobs that didn't require a background check, particularly a criminal one, until I would be provisionally hired.

 

I would ask the client why they feel they need to check a freelancer's background. It just smells funny to me.


Oh wow, I did not know that, thank you. All the companies in the US that offer background checks probably talk about something different then, I assume.  

 

kochubei_valeria
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Valeria K Community Manager Member Since: Mar 6, 2014
12 of 20

Hi Parisa,

 

While it's definitely up to you whether you decide to proceed, requesting a criminal background check would not be a violation of Upwork TOS and can be part of the interview process. You may also refer to the section 2.1 of the User Agreement where it states that "Without limitation, Users are solely responsible for: (a) ensuring the accuracy and legality of any User Content; (b) determining the suitability of other Users for a Service Contract (such as any interviews, vetting, background checks, or similar actions); (c) negotiating, agreeing to, and executing any terms or conditions of Service Contracts; (d) performing Freelancer Services; and/or (e) paying for Freelancer Services."

~ Valeria
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petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
13 of 20

There are very legitimate businesses that do background checks. I had a background check for a huge ($100k+) contract with an Enterprise client, and it was through one of those legitimate companies.

 

I wouldn't do it for a small contract and and I wouldn't do it through some random website.

psheybani
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Parisa S Member Since: Dec 27, 2018
14 of 20

Exactly. Yes, I have done it through enterprise too but that whole process way more professional,   I just think that newer clients who are not enterprise or Upwork plus clients need better guidance from Upwork when they post jobs, on how to approach this so they do not come across as scammy or waste our time.  A simple pop-up asking them do they req a background check or other things.   

petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
15 of 20

Parisa S wrote:

  A simple pop-up asking them do they req a background check or other things.   


Considering that barely any clients ever need a background check, showing them a pop-up that asks them if they do just gives clients ideas...

boshoffirene
Community Guru
Irene B Member Since: Feb 17, 2015
16 of 20

Can you imagine the repercussions when every client sees a poput and goes 'ooooo lookeeee here! let's do a check....'

kfarnell
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Kim F Member Since: Aug 26, 2015
17 of 20

I was once told I'd need a background check and that it would involve taking a drugs test and my neighbours being interviewed.  For writing website copy.  I put it down to delusions of grandeur.

kinector
Community Guru
Mikko R Member Since: Dec 26, 2015
18 of 20
Parisa, this doesn't sound right. Report these guys! 😬

As suggested before, this is probably a new variation of the classic phishing scam that comes back at us freelancers from time to time.

Before freelancing I worked for a big automation company in Sweden, a country with some of the tightest privacy laws in the world (even the privacy of criminals is often protected... please don't ask me to make sense of it). Even there, and coming in as a foreigner, no criminal record check was ever even mentioned. And that was a full-time position in the applied science part of a Fortune 300 company where all the new stuff is invented and that gets dozens of cyber attacks every day plus frequent industrial espionage cases that never see daylight in the news.

So, asking for a criminal record on a freelance site is completely absurd regardless of the stage of the interview process.

It's a scam. 🙄
kinector
Community Guru
Mikko R Member Since: Dec 26, 2015
19 of 20
In addition, Upwork Enterprise Clients who've hired me didn't ask for a criminal background check either. It doesn't happen.
petra_r
Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
20 of 20

Mikko wrote:
In addition, Upwork Enterprise Clients who've hired me didn't ask for a criminal background check either. 

So, just because it didn't happen to you with one Enterprise client means it doesn't happen to anyone with any Enterprise client?

 


Mikko R wrote:
 It doesn't happen.

It does happen! Of course it happens.

 

Or are you saying that I'm lying? I can assure that this is not the case and all my colleagues had the same background checks. 

 

So, asking for a criminal record on a freelance site is completely absurd 

Again, just because you haven't seen it happen does not make it "completely absurd"

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