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chris-eva
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Dear colleagues,

there is about 2 months being a freelancer here. I have submitted 25 proposals already.

I wonder what's the problem with me or my registration, as I haven't got any response or invitation to a job.

I gradually drew down my hourly rate. I think that I've done everything I could.

Please, inform me about s/g you observe in my profile and don't hesitate to criticize. I can stand it.

Thank you, in advance.

Eva

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yitwail
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Evangelia, your profile looks fine and Upwork must think the same or you wouldn't be a rising talent. Have you noticed how many applicants there are and how often anyone actually gets hired for the jobs you apply to? If there more than say 20 applicants or hiring rates are low, then you're in a competitive market segment so there's nothing to be done but write good cover letters and hope for the best. 

 

I notice Charles commenting that your English isn't fluent. Technically, that may be correct but it's entirely comprehensible and that can't be said of many freelancers who claim fluent English. But you should improve spelling and word usage in your overview if you can. I realize I originally suggested Greek to English translation as an additional skill, and it might still be worth considering, but before going that route you should first take some pertinent tests and make sure you get at least above average scores. 

 

Anyhow, best of luck to you.

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It's a tough feeling. Sorry you are at that place right now. I know what it feels like, believe me. Many people here do.

 

Don't take the lack of responses personally. This is just how it works: if they don't want to hire you they ignore your proposal. Most jobs get too many applicants for clients to reply to them all.

 

it's difficult to get started. You have to just keep trying, making sure in your cover letter that you try each time to quickly explain why you are the best person for the job. What are you especially good at? How can you help the client?

 

You have Rising Talent status which definitely should help you. Just keep working at it. Good luck. ๐Ÿ™‚

 

PS I am not sure how you got verified as fluent in English. You have a good working conversational knowledge of the language, but IMO aren't really fluent. A client who wants a fluent English speaker would likely rule you out on that basis, though it shouldn't be as important for your line of work as some others.

yitwail
Member

Evangelia, your profile looks fine and Upwork must think the same or you wouldn't be a rising talent. Have you noticed how many applicants there are and how often anyone actually gets hired for the jobs you apply to? If there more than say 20 applicants or hiring rates are low, then you're in a competitive market segment so there's nothing to be done but write good cover letters and hope for the best. 

 

I notice Charles commenting that your English isn't fluent. Technically, that may be correct but it's entirely comprehensible and that can't be said of many freelancers who claim fluent English. But you should improve spelling and word usage in your overview if you can. I realize I originally suggested Greek to English translation as an additional skill, and it might still be worth considering, but before going that route you should first take some pertinent tests and make sure you get at least above average scores. 

 

Anyhow, best of luck to you.

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The original poster isn't necessarily doing anything wrong. Architectural design simply isn't a job skill that is in high demand on this platform.

Preston H. stated:

 

The original poster isn't necessarily doing anything wrong. Architectural design simply isn't a job skill that is in high demand on this platform.

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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Preston, but he very well may have a good point.  Out of curiosity I "Browsed Freelancers" and entered "Architectural Design."  There are in excess of 33K of on the platform; over 1K have earned over $10K.  Here's the link for additional information: 

 

https://www.upwork.com/ab/profiles/search/?q=architectural%20design


@John K wrote:

I realize I originally suggested Greek to English translation as an additional skill, and it might still be worth considering, but before going that route you should first take some pertinent tests and make sure you get at least above average scores. 


 Where does she say that she is a translator? Under no circumstances should she consider Greek to English translations. 

 

Maybe English to Greek, (if she is indeed a translator) but absolutely not the other way round.

 

First of all most professional translators do not translate from their native language to a foreign one. Secondly her English is far from the standard that is needed to translate to English, and thirdly, just speaking two or more languages does not make anyone a translator. 

 

There is so much more to translating than speaking two languages. It's like suggesting that anyone with a scalpel should be a surgeon ( only less bloody!) 

 

The  languages are only one of the tools of a translator, that's all. Buying a pot does not make me a chef. Owning a hammer does not make me a carpenter.

purplepony
Member

Eva, YOU ARE WANTED!!!  Try to think of it this way---with each "no response" or even "no," you are closer to "yes."  Also, often times I've found it's either "feast or famon."  Hang in there! Woman Wink


@Pat M wrote:

Eva, YOU ARE WANTED!!!  Try to think of it this way---with each "no response" or even "no," you are closer to "yes."  Also, often times I've found it's either "feast or famon."  Hang in there! Woman Wink


Pat is right! Don't give up. The first job is the hardest to win, it DOES get easier and better afterwards! 

As Pat's search indicates.... Clearly there are large numbers of freelancers specializing in architectural design who have earned a lot of money on this platform.

 

There may be less demand than in some job niches. But there are also fewer specialists in this area. So the potential to earn money may be greater than in some job niches which have far too many freelancers, such as data entry or writing.

Go get 'em, Eva!!! Woman Very Happy

kkleiss
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Eva! Don't give up. You obviously have magnificient qualifications, your portfolio is beautiful and you have rising talent status. You're almost there.

 

I'm going to bet you're not getting jobs because your introduction is full of spelling and grammatical mistakes and kind of suggests that you try to get around building rules. I get that you're trying to say that you like to think out of the box, but nobody who needs an architect is going to take a risk on someone who doesn't follow the rules. 

 

I'm an experienced native writer, so I rewrote it for you. try replacing your existing one and see how that goes. Your English may be fluent in conversation, but your writing needs work. You might consider having a friend with more English writing experience go over your proposals before you send them. Be especially cautious about capitalizing random words in the middle of sentences. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization_in_English)

 

Old intro:

Being Master in architecture, I've been occupied in many Residential projects, Hotel, Hospital, Offices and Landscape Designs. I really like my job very much.I've been working alone or in several cooperating schemes. Although I'm finally conveinced that everything must be obedient to rules such as Building Rules, or Financial, I don't quit trying to overleap it, thanks to imagination and inventiveness.

 

New intro:

I'm a master architect with experience working on residential projects, hotels, hospitals, offices and landscape designs. I am passionate about my work and have designed projects both alone and with partners. My work is imaginative and inventive, and I love to push the boundaries. I look forward to working with you!

 

Perhaps other commenters can give their opinion on the new version?

Dear Karen K., I'm obliged to you!!!

 

You're so right to your observations!

I think your answer should be regarded as the one that gave the solution to my problem, but sorry, I was in a hurry.

 

I've already adopted your proposed text.

 

Thank you so much Heart

Eva

chris-eva
Member

Heart Hey people, you're unbelievable !!!! Heart Charles K., John K., Preston H., Pat M., Petra R., Kaven K., thank you all so much!!! Heart

 

You encourage me, you give me advice to improve my profile settings and you're all so right to your remarks.

I was already very excited with this Upwork Platform, its benefits and organization, but now, since I've tested the collaboration, the high spirit and mutuality in here, I think it's a magnificent field to work in here.

 

Good luck to everybody !!!!

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