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filter by avarage hourly rate paid.

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Anwar S Member Since: Sep 20, 2015
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Is there a way to filter projects by the clients hourly avarage rate paid ? 

 

I keep reading projects and when I want to bid I notice in the right some ridiculous low amounts paid in avarage by the client per hour. I understand how the econommy works ... however I'd wish if there is a way for me to filter and to get only the projects where clients paid over X$ / hour as avarage. 

 

If there isn't a way to do this in this moment how ca we propose this to upwork ? Do you see it as a good idea ?

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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Unless you're in a very low-end field, this would be a big mistake. A lot of times when a client has a low average hourly rate, it's because 90% of his hours are data entry or something like that, and the rates he's paid for professional services are quite good.

 

You'll get more useful information by looking at the client's past jobs and seeing what he's paid for services similar to yours or of at a similar skill level.

 

I've had Upwork clients who didn't bat an eye at paying me 8x their average hourly rate or more.

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Anwar S Member Since: Sep 20, 2015
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Then let's say an hourly rate in the category he posted the project. For example if the project it's posted in data-entry will not show the same hourly rate the client paid in design, seo, development ... 

 

For me this information it's essentioal to understand what he expects to spend on the project. If he has 2 - 3 projects, yes, it's easy to look ... but if he already done like 20 projects on upwork ... I'm not looking to spend my life reading his history Smiley Happy 

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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The last thing I want is for Upwork to pull developers off of fixing the many bugs in the system to create a complicated algorithm that attempts to provide dozens of different average hourly rates based on categories that would probably turn out not to be super-relevant, anyway.

 

I guess it all boils down to what is important to you. If you're not willing to spend 60-90 seconds scrolling through a client's past jobs to see whether he's likely to pay your rates, that seems like a personal choice--the good jobs will go to those who can be bothered.

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Melanie H Member Since: Nov 2, 2017
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I can totally see what you're angling at...but really, we contractors have to do our own legwork on this issue, where possible.

 

Come on, don't you like research? I do. Smiley Wink

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Vesna M Member Since: May 15, 2012
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Yes, I find it as a good idea in a contrast to what we have now, meaningless categories for entry, intermediate and expert in connection to what client is willing to pay, and afterwards you realize client wants expert for cheap bucks.

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Eve L Member Since: Feb 17, 2017
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By job category will never work. 

 

That would probably work the same way as the keyword search. For example if I search for freelancers with the keyword "Casino" it shows up that I'm a good match, as I have worked on 2 jobs that match that search. This is far from correct. I have 26 jobs in this niche, and 6 of them even have this word in the description/name. Even without any keywords just searching in the "Writing" category it says I have only worked on 2 matching jobs.

 

My guess is that it would be the same thing if they try to divide a clients projects in different categories. Something is broken in the whole category thing.

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Vesna M Member Since: May 15, 2012
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Eve L wrote:

By job category will never work. 

 

That would probably work the same way as the keyword search. For example if I search for freelancers with the keyword "Casino" it shows up that I'm a good match, as I have worked on 2 jobs that match that search. This is far from correct. I have 26 jobs in this niche, and 6 of them even have this word in the description/name. Even without any keywords just searching in the "Writing" category it says I have only worked on 2 matching jobs.

 

My guess is that it would be the same thing if they try to divide a clients projects in different categories. Something is broken in the whole category thing.


Instead of picking up results by keywords they could just connect with what client previously chose as a job category. Easy. Eg. Marc has four jobs in category Data Entry. He paid five freelancers, in average $5. Marc has $5 average in Data Entry category. Because you can't post a job without choosing a specific category, while you can match someone's search without having that category on your profile skillset or in the settings.

 

I see this as really easy thing to implement, I just don't know how to write code. Ugh, I hate that. Robot Sad

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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Vesna M wrote:

I see this as really easy thing to implement, I just don't know how to write code. Ugh, I hate that. Robot Sad


Probably that's why you see it as a really easy thing to implement, while the people who can write code haven't been able to make it work. 

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Vesna M Member Since: May 15, 2012
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Tiffany S wrote:

Vesna M wrote:

I see this as really easy thing to implement, I just don't know how to write code. Ugh, I hate that. Robot Sad


Probably that's why you see it as a really easy thing to implement, while the people who can write code haven't been able to make it work. 


I don't think they (programmers) add what they think it's useful on their own. The order probably comes from higher instance, someone who rethinks what features Upwork should have and opposite. 

And this one, as I've tried to explain above, is easy because of the fact that there is limited number of job categories, which isn't that huge in compare to all possible keywords someone might come up with, and to get an average paid rate you only need to sum all payments before and divide with number of freelancers. I think this is a pretty strong and reasonable argument.

We could have a little box near a job description that says "average rate in this category by this client is $4".

 

Though, I agree most of clients have around 10-20 jobs and it's not such a fuss to scroll down and see what they usually pay. And I agree there are other concerns that need more attention.

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