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how do I know a job offer is real

pelc-rita
Active Member
Rita P Member Since: Apr 22, 2020
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I received a job offer yesterday and it seemed to be too good to be true.  We texted outside of upwork for over 2 hours.  is this normal?   I have been scammed so many time I am scared

madison-russell
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Madison R Member Since: May 19, 2018
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In general, you should try to keep all communication with a client on Upwork whenever possible, so in case there is an issue with the client or the contract, Upwork has all of the information readily available. 

 

If the job sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Just remember to never accept payment outside of Upwork, don't give a client personal info like your bank account # or SSN, and ask questions. 

pelc-rita
Active Member
Rita P Member Since: Apr 22, 2020
3 of 6

Thank you! How do *tell him I *want to be paid through Upwork, I told him
I wanted to go through work for communication from now on. All he has is
my phone number and address.
the client is Client**Edited for Community Guidelines**

madison-russell
Community Leader
Madison R Member Since: May 19, 2018
4 of 6

That job description looks pretty odd to me. It looks like it was copy-pasted from a dictionary page about bookkeeping. Definitely in the future be careful about applying for jobs that lack any details on the description page.

prestonhunter
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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
5 of 6

This person who texts with you for two hours before hiring you is a scammer. Not a real client. Probably not even a client trying to trick you into providing free work or free consultation.

 

He is a scammer who is trying to steal your money.

 

Client DuPont?

I don't think so.

prestonhunter
Community Guru
Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
6 of 6

It can often help to think about things logically, and think about what you would do if you were a client.

 

Would you take up two hours of a freelancer's time texting? What is the purpose of that?

 

If YOU were the client, you would not quickly ask for a freelancer's phone number before hiring her. You would communicate using the Upwork Messages tool.

 

If you are a client, and you want to verify that freelancer you are hiring is really who she says she is, then you are going to ask for a Skype video call, or at least a phone call. That way you will be able to see that she is not a fake freelancer. You will be able to assess her competency and appropriateness for the position.

 

This "client" was not accomplishing that by texting with you. This "client" was texting with you in order to hide the fact that "he" is not who "he" says he is. He was using a personal fake name, a fake company name, and a fake location. The job itself is fake.

 

If YOU were a client, would you waste a freelancer's time for two hours like that? Or would you be respectful of the freelancer's time? If you want to communicate with the client for two hours, then you would hire the freelancer first. Then you can discuss the project for two hours while you talk on the phone, or via Upwork Messages, or even through texting if that is what you prefer.

 

If YOU were a client, you would not spend two hours "interviewing" a potential freelancer. Nor would you spend two hours getting free consultation time from a freelancer. YOU would hire a freelancer after a relatively short interview period, and any time you spend communicating about the project would be spent while the freelancer logs time.

 

If YOU were the client you would know that anything said and done that you do not pay for does not belong to you. You would know that according to common practice and according to Upwork ToS, only what you actually pay for belongs to you. So you would want all of your communications about the project to belong to you by virtue of being done while the freelancer is logging time.

 

If YOU were the client, you would not ask for the freelancer's home address. What does that have to do with the work that you need done? (Answer: Nothing.)

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