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daneckstein
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position removed by Upwork after I sent personal info

I just received a message from Upwork that a position I applied for "has been reviewed and removed by a member of the Upwork Marketplace Quality team. "  Problem is, I was contacted by that employer yesterday and hired, and they requested W9, passport, etc, which I provided. Have I been scammed? Can I rescind the message I sent them with those attachments?

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dataextract
Member

//Have I been scammed?//

Still doubt?

petra_r
Member

You just had your identity stolen. Expect accounts being opened with your credentials all over the place...

 

when you say you have been hired, are you sure?

 

when you go to the “My Jobs” tab, is the contract there? If not you have NOT been hired.

 

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Petra,

Thanks for your reply. I went back to my messages log and deleted the post to them that provided the personal info. There last email to me was at 2am my time, suggesting they are in a very different time zone, and perhaps never opened my message with the personal info. 

 

If I deleted it before they saw it, am I safe?

 

Dan


@Daniel M. E wrote:

If I deleted it before they saw it, am I safe?

 


 No, they almost certainly received it by email copy

mthornton-cpc
Member

Daniel, you've learned a big lesson here. Don't give anyone your personal documents and info. They don't need it. Part of the draw for clients about an online freelancing platform is that they don't need to mess around with hiring documents and human resource issues. If they're asking for your personal info and documents they are trying to scam you. Period. The little voice within should have been screaming about how bad of an idea that was. Next time, listen to it. In the meantime, you should famliliarize yourself with common fraudulent practices on the internet. 

Melissa,

 

Thanks for your reply. I am new to Upwork and didn't think it through. I have deleted the message I sent them with the personal docs. If they didn't read it in the interim, would that resolve the problem?

 

Dan

Being new to Upwork isn't the same as being new to the internet. I don't mean to be harsh, but this is glaringly obvious. I wouldn't have dreamed of giving anyone that info even on my first day on Upwork. Luckily, now neither will you. If they didn't retrieve the docs before you deleted the message they won't have your docs [PETRA IS RIGHT, I FORGOT ABOUT THE EMAIL TRIGGERED BY MSGS]. But, there's no real way to assume they didn't see your msg based on time zone. Fraudsters are eager enough to steal from you that they may not keep typical working hours, no matter their time zone. 

pandoraharper
Member

Highly recommend that you read this thread and especially Lena's post about avoiding questionable jobs: https://community.upwork.com/t5/New-to-Upwork/Tips-to-Avoid-Questionable-Jobs/td-p/240833

mthornton-cpc
Member


@Daniel M. E wrote:

I just received a message from Upwork that a position job I applied for "has been reviewed and removed by a member of the Upwork Marketplace Quality team. "  Problem is, I was contacted by that employer client yesterday and hired, and they requested W9, passport, etc, which I provided. Have I been scammed? Can I rescind the message I sent them with those attachments?


Last thing, because I truly don't want to pile on the misery, but your terms are telling. Clients are not employers. Freelance jobs are not positions. That is the language of employer-employee relationships. Client-freelancer relationships are inherently different and follow a different set of guidelines. Employers will ask for your personal info for tax and hiring purposes. Clients here don't need that info because they are hiring freelancers on a temporary contract basis - the info you filled out to set up your Upwork profile serves as your W9. 

resultsassoc
Member

Daniel, Please contact every bank, credit card issuer (including gas cards) and insurance company with which you have dealt in the past ten years. They have processes to flag your accounts for potential fraud. Some will require an anti-fraud password from you.

 

If you use any online payment processors, review your accounts and alert them as well. Any merchant with whom you have dealt, that issues credit cards, should be notified. Pay for a year of credit monitoring (a pain in the neck), and check with the big three credit rating agencies. Let them know that someone may have stolen your identity.

 

Most scams of this type are from prospective clients with thin to non-existent client profiles. If the buyer does not have verified payment, be leery. In any response to such a client, note that you will not accept work, nor provide information, until payment is verified. After two years' absence, I just returned to Upwork and a competitor. I recently invited a provider to a job, and he pointed out that my payment was unverified. I had assumed that everything in place when I left two years ago was still in place, and was wrong. I immediately verified my payment method.

 

I've been a job-board provider and employer for more than a dozen years. I research every prospective client before submitting a response. Eight or so years ago I learned that a buyer had been convicted in federal court on multiple counts of fraud. I alerted Upwork (then Elance) and he was immediately removed. Most profiles at least list the time zone. If it's noon in Vermont, and 11 p.m. where the client is, you're not in Kansas any more. I've learned how to spot questionable clients and providers pretty well.

 

My list of red flags is much longer than Upwork's. I can usually spot scams, narcissists, bottom-feeders, lazy clients, clients needing extraordinary hand-holding, and others. I still agreed to work for a client who is a narcissist and hand-grabber this year.

 

Best of luck.