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"The Aussie Voice" is dead. Long live "UX/UI designer who is fond of colors and attractive designs"

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Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
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Virginia F wrote:


I think it's high time Upwork gets rid of Rising Talent, or at least make sure it's a badge that is earned correctly - I have to believe the RT badge is also given by a flawed algorithm. Think of all the clients who use this as a requirement that are being duped.


I completely agree. There are daily complaints from freelancers who don't understand why they haven't got Rising Talent status despite having fulfilled all of the requirements, and when I've looked at the profiles of those who have it versus those who don't, it definitely looks like it's determined by algorithm and not by merit. Those badges are very misleading and it's obvious that some people have figured out how to game the system.

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Renata S Member Since: Jun 10, 2014
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Christine A wrote:

Virginia F wrote:


I think it's high time Upwork gets rid of Rising Talent, or at least make sure it's a badge that is earned correctly - I have to believe the RT badge is also given by a flawed algorithm. Think of all the clients who use this as a requirement that are being duped.


I completely agree. There are daily complaints from freelancers who don't understand why they haven't got Rising Talent status despite having fulfilled all of the requirements, and when I've looked at the profiles of those who have it versus those who don't, it definitely looks like it's determined by algorithm and not by merit. Those badges are very misleading and it's obvious that some people have figured out how to game the system.


I guess we need to unequivocally state what the issue in all this is because I expect some people might be missing it: Not only is UpWork approving reams of fake profiles, but through the Rising Talent designation, they're also making a significant percentage of them look like they've been specially vetted by the company, thereby encouraging clients (especially new ones) to hire the people who produce them. 

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Richard W Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
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Jennifer R wrote:

What do you call it when there are 38 with the same photo?


Identical trigintaoctuplets.

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Jennifer R Member Since: Sep 15, 2017
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Richard W wrote:

Jennifer R wrote:

What do you call it when there are 38 with the same photo?


Identical trigintaoctuplets.


Thanks.

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Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
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lol dannnng I thought there were a lot of UI/UX designers popping up. 500 though wow lol

 

THe account sellers are evolving.

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Renata S Member Since: Jun 10, 2014
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Petra R wrote:

After the sad demise of the "Aussie voice" - meet the "UX/UI designer who is fond of colors and attractive designs and quiet"

 

All 500 of them... Rising Talents among them.

 

Already escalated to Trust & Safety as of a few minutes ago.

 


Petra,

Thanks for initiating a ticket with T&S. I didn't do this myself because I didn't know what kind of response I would get. In the past, I've found the response by T&S to issues like this has been really frustrating. I give them details about how to locate the profiles themselves, and they do little or nothing with the information (I suspect this might be because of the potential to screw up their performance quotas since it represents one huge ticket that will require a lot of time and effort to solve). We saw this with the Aussie Voice profiles, and I don't doubt that we'll see it again. At times I think that all this is doing is helping the profile makers to become a little more sophisticated (although, at present, you don't seem to need a heck of a lot of sophistication to get something approved). 

This is something that really needs to change. Or more to the point, they really should have started addressing this months ago when the AVs first came to light.

And actually, I've been flagging guys with little green halos for months now. This is just the latest evolution in that trend. 


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John K Member Since: Feb 17, 2015
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Rising Talents are required to "Adhere to the Upwork Terms of Service" and those terms prohibit "misrepresenting your experience, skills, or information, including by representing another person’s profile, or parts of another person’s profile, as your own", so none of these cloned profiles should ever have received a Rising Talent badge. If all profiles can't be checked for duplicates at this time, I think it would spare Upwork possible embarrassment to check before bestowing a Rising Talent badge.

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Virginia F Member Since: Feb 15, 2016
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John K wrote:

Rising Talents are required to "Adhere to the Upwork Terms of Service" and those terms prohibit "misrepresenting your experience, skills, or information, including by representing another person’s profile, or parts of another person’s profile, as your own", so none of these cloned profiles should ever have received a Rising Talent badge. If all profiles can't be checked for duplicates at this time, I think it would spare Upwork possible embarrassment to check before bestowing a Rising Talent badge.


Looking forward to a response to this disregard for TOS. How/why is this happening?

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Renata S Member Since: Jun 10, 2014
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Virginia F. wrote:

John K wrote:

Rising Talents are required to "Adhere to the Upwork Terms of Service" and those terms prohibit "misrepresenting your experience, skills, or information, including by representing another person’s profile, or parts of another person’s profile, as your own", so none of these cloned profiles should ever have received a Rising Talent badge. If all profiles can't be checked for duplicates at this time, I think it would spare Upwork possible embarrassment to check before bestowing a Rising Talent badge.


Looking forward to a response to this disregard for TOS. How/why is this happening?


Virginia,

Not to split hairs, but I really would have gone with "this latest disregard for ToS" (that might have been what you meant with the italics).

In the past, I've seen people simply given a hand slap when they've used a fake photo, put up a plagiarized profile overview, copied parts of someone's LinkedIn experience or completely lifted someone else's CV contents verbatim. This doesn't really lead anyone to take it all that seriously. And you can easily earn at least $20K without anyone ever confirming your identity. 

UpWork ToS also clearly applies to academic fraud as well (since it's a violation of the terms of service of most, if not all, academic institutions). It's clearly indicated as a prohibited site use, but you'd never know it based on the way it's handled. And you can easily earn $20K without anyone ever saying anything about this either.
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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In fairness, not even one of those "fond of colors and a quiet" profiles ever earned a single Dollar, and they are not "new" (3-ish months+)

 

(So they would have been set to private after 50 - 30 days and had to have been re-activated twice or more to still be public...)

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