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Catch 22 new to Upwork - Help needed

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Tomas M Member Since: Nov 8, 2019
11 of 15

Upwork set that expectation. They say most people get a gig within the first 5 proposals. I didn't realise it would take months. 

 

But, why doesn the length of time mean anything? Surely it's a numbers game. THe more I propose, the more chance I have of being hired, right? So sending 10 in one day and 10 over ten days is the same, except the latter takes more time. 

 

Maybe I'm wrong. 

 

Anyway, thanks for your help. I'll keep going, I'm just reluctant to if it's costing money and time, for  something that isn't getting me work. 

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
12 of 15

re: "Upwork set that expectation. They say most people get a gig within the first 5 proposals. I didn't realise it would take months."

 

Oh.

Probably best to just ignore that.

Who knows who wrote that.

Anyway, each freelancer is different.

 

What are your skills?

What kinds of jobs are out there right now?

Who else is applying to those jobs?

 

There are many factors. Nobody can tell you when you'll get hired.

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Tomas M Member Since: Nov 8, 2019
13 of 15

Thanks Preston.

 

I think that's my main concern. There are a lot of people out there who are willing to work for $3 an hour it seems, or do a day's work for $10. I suppose I'm just not there, yet! 

 

It's a shame. I'm a genuinely skilled worker and just want to be able to get started. 

 

Thanks

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Amanda L Member Since: Jan 23, 2018
14 of 15

Tomas M wrote:

Upwork set that expectation. They say most people get a gig within the first 5 proposals. I didn't realise it would take months. 

 

But, why doesn the length of time mean anything? Surely it's a numbers game. THe more I propose, the more chance I have of being hired, right? So sending 10 in one day and 10 over ten days is the same, except the latter takes more time. 

 

Maybe I'm wrong. 

 

Anyway, thanks for your help. I'll keep going, I'm just reluctant to if it's costing money and time, for  something that isn't getting me work. 


It's not just a game of numbers though. People who are successful don't send out numerous proposals but quality proposals to the RIGHT clients. It's better to be more selective and look very carefully for the very best fitting jobs (and not waste connects and money) then to just throw connects/money at as many proposals as you can get out and hope you get hired. I would strongly disagree that it's a numbers game.   Just look through the forum here at all the posts of people who bought HUNDREDS of connects and never got a job. It's not a numbers game, clearly. 

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Richard W Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
15 of 15

Tomas M wrote:

Upwork set that expectation. They say most people get a gig within the first 5 proposals. I didn't realise it would take months.


Do they really say that? Well, I don't believe it's true. In fact most freelancers who join Upwork never get a gig. However, if you're persistent, skilled and professional you should get there eventually.

 

But, why doesn the length of time mean anything? Surely it's a numbers game. THe more I propose, the more chance I have of being hired, right? So sending 10 in one day and 10 over ten days is the same, except the latter takes more time. 

The difference is that you can focus your efforts on those jobs where you have the best chance. Of course, if you have enough time to do your very best on those proposals and still have time to apply to the other jobs too, then go ahead. Or maybe in your line of work there are many equally promising opportunities. Anyway, focusing on the most promising opportunities worked for me.

 

One reason my proposals took a lot of time was that I would often do part of the job, enough to demonstrate I could do it well, and send that with my proposal. Some people here might frown on that, but when you're getting started you have to do what it takes. And I preferred to do that than offer to work for peanuts.

 

Good luck!

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