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Client fooling freelancers !!!

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Bharat S Member Since: Apr 26, 2018
1 of 10

Dear All, 

I have started my journey on upwork recently. I got an invitation from Mr. Manny a client from london for a work.

He invited me for a job for $5 mentioning that "this job is for evaluation" and other  things like "good for new freelancers", "long term client" etc. I did few part of project and told him franky I have showed you my efficiency for such project now give me a surety of future projects or hourly basis contract. He refused and our big $5 project (haha) ended. 

I observed his profile and found that he is doing same thing with all.

!!! 488 jobs with 702 hires with cost $2,011 only. Average $4.12 per job. !!!

Please be aware of such clients. 

 

**Edited for community guidelines**

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John K Member Since: Feb 17, 2015
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Bharat, he has a right to hire new freelancers for $5 because no one made those freelancers work for him, and they mostly gave him good reviews. For new freelancers who can’t get their first job any other way, clients like “Manny” are useful. He would probably even hire the same freelancer more than once, as long as it's for $5.

 

ETA: my first oDesk client was very cheap, but did give me 5 star feedback. He would also insist on reviewing each job I completed for 1 week, even though the job was so small he could check it in 10 minutes. But I kept working for this man, until I had enough work history so clients who pay better were willing to hire me. After that, he would keep inviting me for jobs, and I declined each time.

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Bharat S Member Since: Apr 26, 2018
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Every client show his work history. He has disabled that, I think. I am not sure on this but I think yes. Normally, when we click on proposal then it shows history of each projects on that page. Mr. Manny has disabled that. 

I believed him earlier and did 3-4 hour of work to show him my efficiency for given work. I didn't do the remaining 4 hour work, because I discussed this with him. Why should a new freelancer should work for hours and hour for his fake promise.

When I asked him can you explain your no. jobs and money and hiring. $4.12 per job. If he is giving future job to freelancers then in future again he is giving $5 or lesser work. Problem is not with amount. Problem is in the way he is doing. It may leads to a scam. 

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Martina P Member Since: Jul 11, 2018
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Bharat S wrote:

Every client show his work history. He has disabled that, I think. I am not sure on this but I think yes. Normally, when we click on proposal then it shows history of each projects on that page. Mr. Manny has disabled that. 

I believed him earlier and did 3-4 hour of work to show him my efficiency for given work. I didn't do the remaining 4 hour work, because I discussed this with him. Why should a new freelancer should work for hours and hour for his fake promise.

When I asked him can you explain your no. jobs and money and hiring. $4.12 per job. If he is giving future job to freelancers then in future again he is giving $5 or lesser work. Problem is not with amount. Problem is in the way he is doing. It may leads to a scam. 


He can only continue doing this because freelancers like you play along. The exact same information you are claiming proves him to be a bad client was available to you before you took the job. Did you not evaluate his profile before accepting?

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Will L Member Since: Jul 9, 2015
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The more a client mentions there wll be lots of future work for "the right freelancer," the less likely there actually is going to be future work worth doing.

 

Work now for what you're getting paid now. Promises don't pay the bills.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "488 jobs with 702 hires with cost $2,011 only. Average $4.12 per job."

 

This client has spent $2,011 on Upwork.

Upwork has earned real money from his jobs.

 

How much money have YOU spent on Upwork as a client?

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Bharat S Member Since: Apr 26, 2018
7 of 10

I am here to get work not give work. I am freelancer and not a client.

When I asked him can you explain your no. jobs and money and hiring. $4.12 per job. If he is giving future job to freelancers then in future again he is giving $5 or lesser work. Problem is not with amount. Problem is in the way he is doing. It may leads to a scam. 

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
8 of 10

re: "It may leads to a scam."

 

This will NOT lead to him scamming you.

 

Because you are not going to fall for any kind of scam that he might try to do.

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Yeasir A Member Since: May 16, 2017
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It can't be a scam until the client is paying. No matters what is the amount.
He hires for $5 and pays it.
So, it’s totally fine.
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Kathy T Member Since: Jul 17, 2015
10 of 10

Bharat S wrote:

I am here to get work not give work. I am freelancer and not a client.

When I asked him can you explain your no. jobs and money and hiring. $4.12 per job. If he is giving future job to freelancers then in future again he is giving $5 or lesser work. Problem is not with amount. Problem is in the way he is doing. It may leads to a scam. 


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This is a web site which attracts both clients and freelancers from all over the world. Some of us live where the cost of living is high and some of us live where the cost of living is low.

 

Having said that, this client is NOT scamming anyone. He is telling you in the job description that he will pay you $5. You had the opportunity to look at this clients hiring history as well as everyone else who submitted a proposal. No one forced you to apply for the job, as no one forced other freelancers. The client's budget is $5. and there are a lot of freelancers who are more then willing to work for that amount. 

 

As for promises of future work, well, promises don't pay bills. money does. If you are ok with $5 great. IF you get more work from this client Great. if not, that's ok because you shouldn't have been expecting it (even though it was stated in the job description.) 

 

What I really didn't like was that you kind of demanded more work and wanted him to explain the past jobs and past payments. Those figures and information are available. You don't need the client to explain it to you. IMO you came across as pushy and demanding. 

 

In the future, before submitting a proposal, read the clients hiring history and payment. Be satisfied with the budget amount, and do not explect future work. Otherwise, move on and look for jobs that fit what you are expecting to be paid. 

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