Daily Limit Upgrade

[tumulak]

I would LOVE to have UPWORK will come up an Upgrade from the Weekly Time Limit to Daily TIME limit and DAILY Shift LIMIT.

 There is a lot of cases that your Freelancer will login LATE on their shift and LOGout late also so they can make up their late time login. For example, a Freelancer who supposed to be working between 8am-5pm will sometimes late and login at 8:30am.. but then Logs-out at 5:30pm and still be able to get an 8 hour shift. Or in a weekly 40 hours limit, they can be Late for work once or twice a week and still be able to get the 40hrs shift at the end of the week if they will just makeup those times on the other days.

If Upwork can develop an upgrade on this so it will help Employers take the AWKWARD moments of trying to talk to Freelancers about what they did. As for now to fix this is you have to manually monitor your employee everyday if they do come on time, and if they are stealing time to make up their late shifts.. and employer will have to dispute to upwork for what their freelancer of what they did... and this create a tension between employer and freelancer that will lead to ending the CONTRACTS because both parties got an awkward and tension moments of disputing this case.

hope this suggestion will materialized.

Joel

[joanbonjoc]

Hi Joel,

Thanks for sharing your feedback, Joel. We'll forward it to the team.

[jcullinan]

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@Jo-An B wrote:

Hi Joel,

Thanks for sharing your feedback, Joel. We'll forward it to the team.

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Please don't. That's not how freelancing works. Clients can dictate the amount of work and a deadline for completion, but if they are also dictating exactly when the work must take place, that's an employee relationship and not a contract relationship.

See this article from the IRS for details on determining whether someone should be considered an employee or a contractor: https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understanding-employee-vs-contractor-designation

[colettelewis]

Clients should really know how to manage the hours tracked by the freelancers they hire. They shouldn't expect Upwork to do the work for them.

Clients should also know that they are not employers. If they were, they would be liable to expenses such as health and holiday pay etc. Unless a client absolutely stipulates when a freelancer should start and finish, I cannot see what difference half an hour can make at the beginning or end of the day, provided the freelancer delivers the required work on time.

[bobafett999]

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Joel T wrote:. As for now to fix this is you have to manually monitor your employee everyday if they do come on time, and if they are stealing time to make up their late shifts.. and employer will have to dispute to upwork for what their

Joel

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 Freelancers are not your employees.  How are they stealing time?  You get 8 hrs. **Edited for Community Guidelines**

[jcullinan]

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@Joel T wrote:

I would LOVE to have UPWORK will come up an Upgrade from the Weekly Time Limit to Daily TIME limit and DAILY Shift LIMIT.

 There is a lot of cases that your Freelancer will login LATE on their shift and LOGout late also so they can make up their late time login. For example, a Freelancer who supposed to be working between 8am-5pm will sometimes late and login at 8:30am.. but then Logs-out at 5:30pm and still be able to get an 8 hour shift. Or in a weekly 40 hours limit, they can be Late for work once or twice a week and still be able to get the 40hrs shift at the end of the week if they will just makeup those times on the other days.

If Upwork can develop an upgrade on this so it will help Employers take the AWKWARD moments of trying to talk to Freelancers about what they did. As for now to fix this is you have to manually monitor your employee everyday if they do come on time, and if they are stealing time to make up their late shifts.. and employer will have to dispute to upwork for what their freelancer of what they did... and this create a tension between employer and freelancer that will lead to ending the CONTRACTS because both parties got an awkward and tension moments of disputing this case.

hope this suggestion will materialized.

Joel

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Yeah, that's not how freelancing works. You can set a number of hours, but you can't assign when those hours take place. What you're looking for is an employee, not a freelancer.

Here's some detail on how the IRS defines contractors vs. employees - see the first point under "Behavioral Control."

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understanding-employee-vs-contractor-designation

[colettelewis]

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@Jess C wrote:

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Yeah, that's not how freelancing works. You can set a number of hours, but you can't assign when those hours take place. What you're looking for is an employee, not a freelancer.

Here's some detail on how the IRS defines contractors vs. employees - see the first point under "Behavioral Control."

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understanding-employee-vs-contractor-designation

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Unfortunately, Jess, the OP repeated this request in "New to Upwork"  and one of the mods said they would forward the suggestion to the team. I hope it is a suggestion that will die a natural death. https://community.upwork.com/t5/New-to-Upwork/Daily-Limit-Upgrade/m-p/461220#M37022

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[jcullinan]

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@Nichola L wrote:

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Unfortunately, Jess, the OP repeated this request in "New to Upwork"  and one of the mods said they would forward the suggestion to the team. I hope it is a suggestion that will die a natural death. https://community.upwork.com/t5/New-to-Upwork/Daily-Limit-Upgrade/m-p/461220#M37022

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Ugh. Thanks for the link - I repeated my comment there as well.

[jcullinan]

If anyone is super confused as to the repetitive nature of this thread now, apparently a moderator felt the need to combine the two, without telling anyone, and without removing the duplicate posts.

[kochubei_valeria]

Thanks for sharing your observation, Jess. We've now removed the duplicate post that was merged into this thread, but will keep all the replies here as they are related to the same topic.