How can I learn more about a posted job without bidding?

[2e7d3d8d]

Very few job postings are detailed enough to justify a bid without further information from the client.

The only way I see to initiate contact with propspective clients is to execute a  bid. When i don't have enbough details these bids are not serious and they waste time and money. Often it isn't even clear if a bid should be project based or a simple hourly bid.

I end up basically paying to see the full details of job offers,  plus I have to tender a meaningless bid, just find out what the actual job entails. Is there any way to initiate contact with prpospective clients without sending a bid (or paying credits)?

Thanks for anyone who can help with a genuine and knowledgeable  answer. 

[prestonhunter]

re: "Is there any way to initiate contact with prospective clients without sending a bid?"

No.

[48fe920d]

Good question

[williamtcooper]

Michael,

Preston is right; this is just how Upwork's system works. Please click the Academy link on the top of the page to learn how to use the system. Have a great day!

[feed_my_eyes]

You have two choices: 1) Ignore such projects, or 2) Tell the client that your bid is a placeholder, then ask questions. 

I tend to go with option 1. My rates are higher than most other freelancers in my niche, so I need to be able to write a convincing proposal explaining why I'm a good fit; if I don't know anything about the project, it's pretty difficult to convince the client that they need my services. I also find that the vaguer the project description is, the less likely it is that the client will hire anyone at all. Also, the odd time when one of these vague clients did hire me, they were pretty challenging to work with - they don't suddenly become more eloquent once the projects starts. But, YMMV.

[48fe920d]

This is awesome share and it will help many

[2e7d3d8d]

Thanks for the responses everyone!  You guys confirmed my understanding of an akward aspect of UW.

 Christine, I definitely lean towards your approach so this really helps my confidence in my "selectivity radar".