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Melissa C Member Since: Sep 30, 2018
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This particular scam appears to be a regular thing. I was invited to interview for a position I did not apply to. I almost did not accept the invite because they were not verified and had no reviews. But after looking at the community pages I decided that they could get verified before I ever started any work and figured I should give it a chance since I have not received any work yet. I need a completed job in my profile.

 

This morning I get both a message from the scammer with a request for google hangout (I looked up the company and it appeared to be a pharma company in Dusseldorf-but what HR would use a gmail) and a message from upwork that the job posting is removed. ugh

 

Just wanted to post on here so people are aware.

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
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@Melissa C wrote:

This particular scam appears to be a regular thing. I was invited to interview for a position I did not apply to. I almost did not accept the invite because they were not verified and had no reviews. But after looking at the community pages I decided that they could get verified before I ever started any work and figured I should give it a chance since I have not received any work yet. I need a completed job in my profile.

 

This morning I get both a message from the scammer with a request for google hangout (I looked up the company and it appeared to be a pharma company in Dusseldorf-but what HR would use a gmail) and a message from upwork that the job posting is removed. ugh

 

Just wanted to post on here so people are aware.


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It's one of the oldest scams in the book - and hundreds of people do it, so it is really difficult for Upwork to keep up. But I'm glad you dodged a bullet on that one. I'm surprised they tried it on with your experience and in your category.

 

Love your art!!Smiley Happy

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Melissa C Member Since: Sep 30, 2018
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Thanks! Predators are everywhere. Have to watch out and help each other
because good people are everywhere too.

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Robert M Member Since: Dec 7, 2019
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I have been targeted by this scam five times in just the past few months. And I don't buy the argument that there is nothing that could be done by Upwork. Upwork could certainly take steps to verify the actual identity of those listing jobs (not just their credit card validity) using photo IDs, similar the what they do, but perhaps not the same, for freelancers. Or they could implement a fee for listing a job that is refudable if someone is actually hired for and does work on a job. That would also probably eliminate a lot of the fake jobs or jobs that are never awarded, which are far too numerous. Or refund Connects for any job that is bid on but for which no one is actually hired. But all of these are unlikely because part of the Upwork business model is based on the assumption that most contracts will never be awarded, while Upwork still makes money.

 

 

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Richard F Member Since: Sep 9, 2009
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My profile is private because I am happily busy after nine years here.My guess is Upwork closed the job for wanting to work outside, and someone complained as you should too

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Melissa C Member Since: Sep 30, 2018
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Thanks! I will do that.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "This morning I get both a message from the scammer with a request for google hangout (I looked up the company and it appeared to be a pharma company in Dusseldorf-but what HR would use a gmail)"

 

Two key points:

 

Point 1:

Google Hangouts = scam.

As soon Google Hangouts is mentioned, you can simply stop communicating with those people and stop wasting your time.

 

Point 2:

I advise new freelancers to never google or otherwise "look up" company names.

Googling company names is one of the main tricks that scammers use to steal money, time and identity information from freelancers.

When the freelancer Googles the company name, that is what the scammer WANTS you to do. So don't do it. Instead, rely on the information within Upwork only.

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Melissa C Member Since: Sep 30, 2018
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I understand that google hangouts is clearly a scam sign for sure. However, do clients ask freelancers to communicate via other methods during a job and they do it? Like personal texting? Another client asked me to use zoom. (which I did not)

 

I don't want to but I also don't want to lose work if a client is used to doing something and I won't comply so they dump me.

 

In regards No.2, I can see that my looking up that company was pointless because it clearly was a real company but had nothing to do with the Felicity person messaging me on upwork. I wasted those moments.

 

thanks for your message

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
9 of 36

Melissa,

 

There is no reason not to communicate with a client privately and it is allowed on Upwork. What is not allowed, is to be paid in any other way than through Upwork. 

 

I would suggest, you read a little more about how the site works, if only to avoid any more scammy people posing as clients. Thinking they are above reading the small print is a mistake that many well-qualified newcomers make: https://community.upwork.com/t5/New-to-Upwork/Getting-Started-on-Upwork/m-p/264214#M2460

 

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "I understand that google hangouts is clearly a scam sign for sure. However, do clients ask freelancers to communicate via other methods during a job and they do it? Like personal texting? Another client asked me to use zoom."

 

That's a great question.

 

DURING a job.... I have used MANY forms of communication. Including Zoom.

Also Slack, email, phone, Skype, chat, even meeting people in person.

 

I'm not going to pay for something (a client should pay if there are costs involved, of course), but I'm happy to communicate via any method the client wants to use when a client is paying me.

 

We're talking about hourly jobs of course.


For me, a fixed-price contract entails zero communication after the contract/milestone commences.


(If communications are necessary, that means it is an hourly contract.)

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