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petra_r
Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
21 of 32

Sean H wrote:

 

What could work then?

(1) Giving a referring partner 10 new contact credits on a new referred freelancers first paying job? This would generate more income for everyone

 


More freelancers do not create more income. Only more clients creates more income.

More freelancers simply dilutes the available income, it does not make Upwork or individual freelancers more money. That is a fallacy.

Giving freelancers more Connects does not generate more income for everyone either. Again it just dilutes income. More Connects do not bring more clients, just more proposals.

 


Sean H wrote:

 

(2) Giving a referring partner a cash reward for when a new referred partner hits $1000  turnover?


Again, not logical. That $ 1000 would likely have been spent anyway, on a freelancer already on the site.

 


Sean H wrote:

 

(3) Giving a referring partner some reason to want to invite their network of professionals to this site and increase the value to the end user client? 


If you want to refer friends, do it because it may (or may not) benefit them, not because you want it to benefit you. Be a friend, that's what friends do.

That's what I do, anyway.

 

Upwork could (and arguably SHOULD) lose 50+% of the current freelancer base in most categories, and be better off for it. Spending money on bringing more would be insane.

Arguing that only great freelancers should refer only other great freelancers is a cute idea, but in practice you'd have to then police who gets to refer and vet even more newbies.

 

The reality would just be an increase in wannabes.

 

The way to make money on the platform is to successfully win contracts, not to arge that you should be rewarded for bring your competitors on board.

 

There are limited rewards for bringing clients, because more real (the type who spends money) is what "generates more income for everyone."#

 

Bringing more freelancers does not generate a thing apart from more noise and more proposals when clients are already drowning in them.

 

 

sean_holland
Active Member
Sean H Member Since: Feb 3, 2019
22 of 32

OK - I sense the tone here - 

 

FYI I am making money on the platform. I love it. I have also brought in one client and two really talented freelancers, for nothing, because I am a friend to my friends. 

 

Affiliates are about people working for the greater good of a community as a cooperative. Not people grabbing money for nothing. I personally don't see an issue with incentivising good people to use their network and channels to grow your product. 

 

Pardon me for making suggestions. I will get back in my box. 

 

 

petra_r
Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
23 of 32

Sean H wrote:

 

Pardon me for making suggestions. I will get back in my box. 

 

 


Don't do that, we are having a discussion Smiley Wink It's a "discussion" forum.

It is an old and much repeated fallacy that more proposals and more freelancers equal more money spent... That isn't the case and I just wanted to explain why and how that isn't the case: Because it does not increase client spending, and that is the only thing that makes more money. More clients who spend more money Smiley Wink

sean_holland
Active Member
Sean H Member Since: Feb 3, 2019
24 of 32

I don't agree with the comment, "The last thing Upwork needs is more Freelancers" - It is, after all, a freelancing platform.  I do agree that the last thing Upwork needs is more freelancers who price wrong, provide substandard work and are using the platform incorrectly - This aversion to having more freelancers implies that the platform is not working the way it was originally intended to work. 

 

My comment was that there should be an affiliate programme for successful Up workers to refer more QUALITY freelancers. Ones that will make themselves and the platform money. 

 

If 98% are rejected and even the 2% are failing to all make money then maybe the joining criteria would benefit from professionals referring OTHER professionals. Let your community be a filter. 

 

Just a thought 

gilbert-phyllis
Community Guru
Phyllis G Member Since: Sep 8, 2016
25 of 32

If and when UW implements meaningful vetting of new FLs, ensuring each one truly is ready to operate a professional small business on this platform before enabling them to submit proposals...maybe then it would make sense to let the top tier recommend new members.

Having so many FL members who are not prepared to succeed here is an enormous drag on the hull because they require more service and attention without generating commensurate income. Until UW corrects that imbalance by meaningfully vetting newbies, there will be little audience for the idea of bringing in even more who need to be vetted (but won't be).

sean_holland
Active Member
Sean H Member Since: Feb 3, 2019
26 of 32

Yeah - I think you have identified the real issue here. The open door policy. It is a six of one situation I guess. I honestly wouldn't have tried it if it wasn't completely free. However, now I see it works I would be happy to pay - Maybe permanent free access is the issue. 

 

Smiley Wink

275e576c
Active Member
Jesse J Member Since: Sep 28, 2018
27 of 32

I own over 400 domains, have several social media accounts (each with hundreds to thousands of followers), and own opt-in lists totaling over 225k. I can promote upwork, but why should I if there's no benefit financially for me in doing so. At least with Fiverr, I can promote their site and get paid on my affiliate account there. As to  the question in this thread from some upwork staff member that said (paraphrasing) ..."what would the benefit to upwork be?" ... I say without folks like me promoting your site, the only new members you'd get are those from your own advertising, but if you compensate me some justifiable manner for referring new members, then your member list will increase faster. Seems to me that's something you (upwork) would want!

gilbert-phyllis
Community Guru
Phyllis G Member Since: Sep 8, 2016
28 of 32

Sean H wrote:

Yeah - I think you have identified the real issue here. The open door policy. It is a six of one situation I guess. I honestly wouldn't have tried it if it wasn't completely free. However, now I see it works I would be happy to pay - Maybe permanent free access is the issue. 

 

Smiley Wink


I would never have tried it if it weren't free, and I would not be able to bail out fast enough if I had to pay anything beyond a small percentage of earnings. Especially knowing how rickety some parts of the platform are and how strategically bass-ackward the whole thing is run these days.

 

I don't think a paywall would help, anyway. FLs who are able and willing to pay extra can be just as clueless and oblivious as those who can't or won't. I'm convinced it's a vetting issue.

 

kochubei_valeria
Community Manager
Valeria K Community Manager Member Since: Mar 6, 2014
29 of 32

Sean and Jesse,

 

Thanks for sharing your suggestions. Just to clarify, we have a few programs running at the moment that allow clients to bring new freelancers on Upwork, freelancers to bring their clients on Upwork and Top Rated freelancer to refer other freelancers who work in customer support field to Upwork. We will inform our users if we launch any new referral programs.

 

Note that a few comments have been removed from this thread as they were in violation of the Community Guidelines.

~ Valeria
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sean_holland
Active Member
Sean H Member Since: Feb 3, 2019
30 of 32

Hi 

 

OK - Thanks for the info. I cant refer on your scheme as I am in the UK. However, it is nice to see that Upwork have these schemes in place at some level. 

 

Thank you for the information

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