Ukraine Tax – VAT Collection to Start in January (Update: on February 14): Feedback and Questions

[#1]

Starting early next year, we will begin collecting Ukraine’s Value Added Tax (VAT) when talent and clients registered in Ukraine purchase Upwork services. Ukraine signed a new law on June 29, 2021 requiring Upwork to collect VAT for certain transactions.

Check out the announcement here and let us know your thoughts about these updates in the comments below.

[#2]

Hi Goran V,

can you answer a question or comment on my post Jan 27, 2022 12:35:43 AM January?

[#3]

Hello Mike. 

There's a mistake in the Tax VAT number. Here in Ukraine, we have 10 digits number for Individual entrepreneurs.  But the platform requires me to enter 8 or 12 digits instead. 

Actually, in Ukraine the short form of 'Individual entrepreneurs' is FOP. 

12 digits are correct for the legal entity, not Individuals. 

Could you check this issue, please? Also, you can verify my words in public sources. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number#cite_note-23

This article is correct but mentioned Legal entities only. 

https://tax.gov.ua/en/individuals/obtaining-registration-number-of-the-taxpayers-account-card/what-i...

This article point to the official government website. 

[#4]

You need a ПДВ number. You need to register it separately. It's not ІПН.

[#5]

Hi,

Why I've been asked to start paying Ukraine’s Value Added Tax (VAT) if we are US-based company who hiring freelancers?

I've reviewed my profile, and there is no any mentions about the Ukraine. 

[#6]

Due upwork notification asfor ADDITIONAL VAT fees% payment for Ukrainian residents(freelancers).

This law 1525 regulates the procedure for paying tax for non-residents! of Ukraine, so it does not concern freelancers ( Ukrainian citizens) - but upwork platform as that non resident side. ThUS, charging additional fees 20% from freelancers - residents of Ukraine is illegal (not related to this law). Upwork shifts its tax obligations to Ukrainian tax department onto the shoulders of a freelancer, this is illegal. You might resolve the issue between yourself - Upwork and the possible client (customer) , without burdening the freelancer with a second tax - which you want to oblige him to pay instead of you, from your profits.

[#7]

Hi Dmitriy,

We are collecting this tax to comply with local tax laws in Ukraine. A change in the law has required us to begin collecting these taxes unless you provide a VAT ID Number. You can find more information here.

Thank you! 

[#8]

take attention from this law requirements once more= This law 1525 regulates the procedure for paying tax for non-residents! of Ukraine, so it does not concern freelancers ( Ukrainian citizens) - but upwork platform as that non resident side. ThUS, charging additional fees 20% from freelancers  - residents of Ukraine is illegal (not related to this law).freelancer paid 20/10% to upwork. and this shoul be the end of the story... taxes might be paid by upwork.. fron upwork profits.. not from freelancers wallets. Upwork shifts its tax obligations to Ukrainian tax department onto the shoulders of a freelancer, this is illegal. You might resolve the issue between yourself - Upwork and the possible client (customer) , without burdening the freelancer with a second tax - which you want to oblige him to pay instead of you, from your profits... freelancer does pay 20-10% to upwork.. and nothing more.. all other (  taxes) due the law 1525 might be paid by upwork.... as non resident due th Law..  and freelancer  not might  pay your upwork tax to Ukrainian tax department from own wallet but upwork might.from own1. instead of that you share requirement to pay upwork additional fee (called it as a tax) ! do not manipulate please with the need.. cause you try to get illegal additional payment from freelancer to cover own obligations. zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1525-20#Text

[#9]

True. Google, Steam don't take they 20% from customers, but pay it themselves. They didn't even raise their prices.

the US adds tax after the purchase, while in EU and Ukraine the tax is included. The correct thing would be for Upwork just pay % out of their profit, because they use ukraine's resources but don't pay anything for that.

[#10]

Because of the war, the Ukrainian government initiated tax reform, essentially canceling VAT. What's Upwork's position on account of these changes?

[#11]

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your question. We're looking into this and will follow up when we have more information.

[#12]

Hello, I live in Ukraine. And our taxpayer number consists of 10 digits. Please tell me how to fill in correctly and what documents so that it is considered. Because the tax is very high, I now pay in the country as a private entrepreneur - 5%
And this would change a large commission very significantly. It is important. Thanks

[#13]

 In Ukraine we have 10 digits

How long time need to change 12/8 to 10 digits in Upwork form VAT?) 2-3 years?) one year has passed 🙂

[#14]

Hi Igor,

A 10-digit personal Tax ID is not a VAT number and does not make you exempt from this tax. A 12-digit VAT ID or 8-digit business registration number is required in order to be exempted from this tax collection. 
I hope this helps!

[#15]

Ukrainian citizens simply don't have 12-digit VAT number.

[#16]

You need ФОП + ПДВ. VAT = ПДВ

[#17]

By and large, we are generally the buyer of goods from upwork - goods in the form of part-time work for a third party (customer), for which we pay upwork 10% of such goods... and based on the fact that upwork is a non-resident of Ukraine and receives income from Ukraine, it is upwork that should pay VAT... and it is on the 10% of interest that it takes from us from each contract... that is, it is upwork that should pay this 2% (20% of the 10% commission), and not demand an additional 2% from us.За великим рахунком ви взагалі є покупцем товару в апворку - товару у вигляді підробітку для третьої сторони (замовника), за що сплачуєм апворку 10% такого товару..і виходячи саме з того, що апворк  є нерезинентом України та отримує дохід з України - то платити НДС має саме апворк.. і саме з тих 10% відсотків, які він у нас забирає з кожного контракту.. тобто ці 2% ( 20% від 10% комісії) має платити саме upwork, а н е вимагати з нас додатково 2%.

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IF ukrainian freelancer is not registered in Ukraine as VAT payer => upwork has no basis to ask ukrainian freelancer for sharing VAT number - cause the person does not provide any activity related to pay VAT taxes.. and that s why does not have TAX registry in Ukraine. In this situation upwork might avoid such freelancers from sharing VAT IDs and   not extort 20% from him under any pretext*

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By and large, we are generally the buyer of goods from upwork - goods in the form of part-time work for a third party (customer), for which we pay upwork 10% of such goods... and based on the fact that upwork is a non-resident of Ukraine and receives income from Ukraine, it is on upwork"s side to pay VAT from OWN INCOMES... . that is, it is upwork that should pay this 2% (20% of the 10% commission), and not demand an additional 2% from us.