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Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
11 of 19

@Seagull F wrote:
 

Thank you Jennifer for your observation. None is born with previous experience. It is acquired through work and difficulties one faces in everyday life. My point was that I'm preparing a MA degree in translation, and I have  in fact translated many documents and articles my teachers brought to class. These documùents concerns media, business, and technical documents. Legal and medicat translation is still coming next semester. The problem is that I haven't had the chance to get into field practice. That's why I'm trying to use the system as you mentioned ( upwork for instance ) to sharpen my experience. This of course needs some guidance and some help. And I 'm sure these two will be put me on the right rail, because I'm sure I can give a quality product.  However, the problem that imposes itself is that how can a client trust me for the first time and my profile shows "newbie" even if I can translate almost like, if not better than, an exprienced one. I bid on client's request and I see the attached file. I can do it with a better quality, but the client doesnt trust me with "NO" previous work on my profile. And that's the big question facing me right now!


 These questions really identify the winners from the losers. You need to figure it out yourself. All of us figured it out. 

 

The best thing to do is get a real job and come back in 10 years.

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
13 of 19

@Preston H wrote:

Seagull:

Your path to success lies in seeking opportunties for earning income, learning more, and enjoying life in your local community.

 

The best advise I could give you would be for you to block any computer you have access to from connecting to the "Upwork.com" domain.


 Good heavens Preston, that is a bit drastic.

 

@]Seagull,

 

In your proposals, you need to convince your prospective clients that you can do as good a job on his or her project as any of the possibly 50 people who have also applied for it. As Arabic is your native language, you should also put that down as native/bilingual under "languages". You should only offer translation services from French or English into Arabic, not vice versa.

 

You also need to add a portfolio to your profile. If you are showing prospective clients samples of your work in your proposals, then make sure that your work into Arabic is as flawless as possible. Get someone to proofread them for you.

 

ETA: You should also do a few Upwork tests that relate to your advertised skills, but only publish results that are "above average" and higher.

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Handy R Member Since: Jul 14, 2017
13 of 19

Just add the portofolio by your self. Not necessary from the other. Let the other people appraise. For the one which is doesn't have field experiences,it's worked.

 

For a long time experiences in translating, I believe that you have sample of your portofolio. Add that in your profile

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Rupa S Member Since: Jun 3, 2020
14 of 19
I have no idea.. That what can I income in this business plzz help me.
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Bojan S Moderator Member Since: Mar 9, 2018
15 of 19

Hi Rupa,

 

It looks like you haven't submitted your profile for a review yet. Please make sure all the fields are completed and then submit your application for the review at the bottom of the page. Our team will reach out to you with the results within 24 hours.

 

Please check out these threads Getting Started on Upwork and Hiring Headquarters. There you’ll find some excellent articles and learn more about Upwork. 

 

Thank you!


~ Bojan
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Aron H Member Since: Mar 29, 2017
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16 of 19

Hi seagull, I have seen your post and I think I can give you some useful tips since I was in the same situation several months ago.
Starting freelancing as an artist full-time, entirely and only on upwork, without any experience in the field and no portfolio or results to present I fought through the rough start to get the first jobs landed.

While your situation sounds bad, some of your worries are actually not relevant, others are easy to solve.


It is irrelevant that you don't have any experience.
You client isn't looking for experience. He is looking for skill and needs someone who can solve his problem.
Actually, "experience" isn't a relevant indicator at all. Some people with half a year of experience in their job already overcome others with decades of experience. More experience doesn't mean BETTER, it just means LONGER.


If your portfolio is killer, nobody will care how long you are doing something, or how experienced you are.
If your work is compelling and displays the required skills, it will speak for itself and nobody will ask you what your education level is.
People are looking for the best, not for the one guy doing stuff the longest.

Which leads me to the point that is easy to solve:

Create work for your portfolio.
Don't just do "something" for the sake of having something to show.

Chose a topic you want to get clients in, be your own client and create a job brief for yourself. Try to achieve the set target the best way possible, review your own work and question yourself if the result is something you are willed to pay money for.

Is the answer yes? Great, you just created a portfolio piece about topic "xyz" for "a client".
Try to get 3 killer portfolio pieces together that display the peak of your skillset, and you are good to go.

Lastly, finetune for your profile is your profile picture.

While you seem to be a friendly and entertaining person, I am not sure if your visual appearance displays the serious look you need to compel your potential clients.
Maybe try a more business-oriented picture?
The site https://www.photofeeler.com/ gives an easy and free way to check how your image appears to other people.


When looking for your first job, basically do ANYTHING to make that first 5-star rating work.
Try to look for small fixed price jobs exclusively.
The ideal job is small, doesn't take long, and the actual payment is rather irrelevant. This job shall just be a kickstart and the shorter it takes, the less time you lose for your actual work.

Try to make your text free from typos and mistakes. If you want to translate documents, it has to be 100% on point, all the time.

 

Don't advertise yourself to be something you aren't. If you say you are on top of your league, your work has to show, otherwise you will get angry clients and bad ratings.

 

 

I hope this helps a bit.

 

 

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Seagull F Member Since: Jul 27, 2017
17 of 19

First of all, I would like to thank all people on the Upwork platform who choose to react to my question. Honestly, I find some criticisms very shocking and very deconstructive. Some freelancers overreact to my question and assail me with such big words and degrading language. I asked for some help my friend; so there is no need to be rude in your remarks. What you can say in an offensive manner, you can say it politely. Is there any harm in that? Does it cost you a lot to be polite in your speech? I am not perfect and none is too. We all make mistakes and we learn from our mistakes until one day we became well trained. We all need help in away or another; if it is not today then one day we will need it of course.

However, other freelancers were very friendly and very helpful in fact. Their criticism was very constructive and full of advice and instructions. Their ideas were clear, precise, to the point and expressed in such a highly civilized language. They were neither arrogant nor boastful; they were very modest and very friendly in deed. They show their noble race and noble heart not only to me, but to all freelancers on the Upwork platform. To all of them I say THANK YOU SO MUCH for your help.

**THANK YOU SO MUCH ARON H. “chapeau man!”**

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Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
18 of 19

you're welcome

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Rupa S Member Since: Jun 3, 2020
19 of 19
Hiii.. I am rupa. I want to start the business but I don't know how to start the business... Plzz tell me. And if have any work then send me.
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