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**UPDATED 06/25/2019**Something Positive for a Change

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Ruth B Member Since: Jul 22, 2017
21 of 30

Rene, 

Definitely agree that the information can be found elsewhere. I don't believe his course is the end all be all for freelancing here on Upwork or anywhere else. At the time, I didn't feel like I could approach anyone on the boards.

Who was going to be willing to hold my hand and walk me through this stuff?  After reading the responses here in the forum, yes there are nuggets of information to be had, yes. But with so many people running around misrepresenting their skills, farming work out, etc..... It is very hard to know whom to trust here. And I think that goes both ways (new people to experienced FL's, and vice versa). 

 

Honestly, with the level of help and mentorship I required at the time, I would've felt like I was bothering any one of you (the people I hold in esteem in the forums). There was no way for you to know that I wasn't a hack. 

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Eve L Member Since: Feb 17, 2017
22 of 30

@Ruth B wrote:

Rene, 

Definitely agree that the information can be found elsewhere. I don't believe his course is the end all be all for freelancing here on Upwork or anywhere else. At the time, I didn't feel like I could approach anyone on the boards.

Who was going to be willing to hold my hand and walk me through this stuff?  After reading the responses here in the forum, yes there are nuggets of information to be had, yes. But with so many people running around misrepresenting their skills, farming work out, etc..... It is very hard to know whom to trust here. And I think that goes both ways (new people to experienced FL's, and vice versa). 

 

Honestly, with the level of help and mentorship I required at the time, I would've felt like I was bothering any one of you (the people I hold in esteem in the forums). There was no way for you to know that I wasn't a hack. 


When I started out here I got plenty of help from a lot of regulars here, and I had no idea what I was doing. So in that sense Tiffany S, Jennifer M and Kat C (just to mention a few writers here) saved me a lot of money. I never thought I could get to the rates those ladies were charging. Don't think I would have done as well as I have if they didn't help me out answering all kinds of questions,.

 

But anyway Ruth, I'm really glad things worked out for you, and that you can finally do this full-time. And congrats on the new baby!

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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
23 of 30

I believe I'm speaking primarily for the writers and translators who tend to post in the forums with the following ...

 

It's almost always easy to spot those with brains, determination, and talent - in no particular order. These are the people who ask questions rather than whine and bemoan the fact that "no one gets it". They are the people who listen, act on advice, and then ask follow-up questions.

 

Ruth and Eve, you both have all three attributes and, frankly, it showed from the start.

 

The 3 writers, an artist, and a book designer who mentored me have moved on ... but I will always owe a debt of gratitude to them. 

 

P.S. For those of you from the eLance era the names are Lisa, Hayden, Pete, Linda, and Daniel.  Smiley Wink

 

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Ruth B Member Since: Jul 22, 2017
24 of 30

Wendy, 

I really appreciate you saying so. I try to get on here and respond to people's questions like you all did when I had questions. All of you big writers in here just seemed so far removed from my position at the time. That's why I made this thread. I'm hoping that by leaving it up, my journey from the beginnings of success to full-time income success will help other people stay motivated.

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Victoria M Member Since: Oct 8, 2018
25 of 30

I'm bumping this because it was lovely to read.

So glad to see that months later you are still active, your profile looks great, and you're achieving your goals. Thanks for posting this way back when. It's very inspiring!

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Ruth B Member Since: Jul 22, 2017
26 of 30

Victoria, then this thread is serving it's purpose for sure. Things are still going amazing. I've hired a VA (from Upwork!) to help me with the admin side of things, and that's made a positive difference in my workflow.

 

I'm acquiring more clients outside of Upwork, since I've been attending networking events local to me. This has worked out wonderfully, although the pipeline is longer than using Upwork. I'm preparing to speak at a couple of these events about content marketing for one of them, and about using Upwork as a freelancer and as a client at another! (So you're welcome everyone, because these people will know how to write their job listings and what to look for in proposals!)

 

I've also gotten a couple of clients off of LinkedIn. Things are moving really well, and I'm getting more comfortable charging rates that I'm worth. While I'm still writing quite a bit, I've moved up into the strategy side of things. I'm also getting ready to start the first class for my marketing degree. 

 

Things have been busy! Which is why I'm not on here a lot. Just super super busy!

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Victoria M Member Since: Oct 8, 2018
27 of 30

Zowie! Better and better. 

Thanks for the update. Sounds like a grand adventure.  ^.^ 

It'll be fun to see where you go with it next! When you have time, of course.

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Ruth B Member Since: Jul 22, 2017
28 of 30

Thanks Eve, 

She's a little darling and sleeps really well which is great for my need to work during the day. 

 

I think I was still suffering from "imposter's syndrome" when I was getting started, which reflected on my uncertainty about asking for help. I don't feel that way now, thankfully :-)

 

Ruthie

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Ruth B Member Since: Jul 22, 2017
29 of 30

You know.... Life has changed so much since I created this forum thread. I feel like I'm really settling into my life as a freelancer. Working for myself is fun and mentally challenging. It's everything my 9-5 wasn't. I didn't have a 6-month financial buffer when I made the leap, so that's a little stressful sometimes. However, I can't say I regret it because I had to quit my 9-5 when I did, or I was never going to do it. 

 

Still working with a VA, although I ended up finding a new one because my first one struggled to balance her clients and school. My new VA has skills that compliment my own, so that is working out wonderfully! I've added a couple of new clients each month, and I've lost a couple or let them go. Some of them just haven't needed as much content which is natural. 

 

I'm really excited about 2019. I'm not sure what my business is going to turn into. I get contacted by people who really want me to work on their websites all of the time. I'm getting referrals from my burgeoning professional network and leads from LinkedIn. I'm not chasing down leads anymore either. It's more like we stroll casually until we decide to work together or not. 

 

The biggest thing I changed in 2018 was my mindset. It sounds corny, but when you view your prospects differently, you mentally feel less desperate. Desperation is what leads writers to write for pennies because "that's the only kind of job" they can find. You don't quote rates that you think the client can pay. You quote your rate, and they can take it or leave it. The only person who controls your rate is you. If they don't like your rate, then they aren't the client for you. 

 

I've noticed that writers still struggle to find clients when they DO write for pennies, so what do you have to lose? Set your rate at something you'd be happy to work for. Then STOP applying for the "pennies" jobs. You aren't going to change their price. Look for clients who understand quality, and don't waste your time on the ones who won't budge on the rate. 

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Ruth B Member Since: Jul 22, 2017
30 of 30

Oh wow. So my last update was December 2018. It's now June 2019. So much has changed. SO MUCH! Where do I even start? 

 

So I have largely moved off of Upwork in terms of getting clients. I do still check though! Most of my clients are ongoing, so I haven't needed to search for new clients to often. I'm still getting them from events and LinkedIn. 

 

I've been doing guest blogging and podcast interviews to create and raise my credibility, and it's been working! I actually just started my own podcast, so that's awesome. 

 

I started writing a book as well, about my freelance business journey, and I have some publisher interest, which is amazing! 

 

I'm really happy with the rates that I'm charging now. I've managed to land projects that are about $1 per word or $200 per hour (both internal metrics, I only do project rates). Just wrapped up my first white paper, and I charged $3,000 for it. 

 

This last 6 months has just flown by. I don't even know how awesome the next 6 months is going to be. I just know it's going to be awesome! 

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