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"Academic" Writers...

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Kat C Member Since: Jul 11, 2016
21 of 30

@Michelle S wrote:

Thanks for the thoughtful reply!

 

I would also not feel comfortable writing for NIH studies...those are WAY outside of my area of expertise.  However, I would feel comfortable helping someone from a computer science discipline through the process of understanding human-subject testing for interfaces or other things computer science-y folk do. In fact if I was hired to help with research I would feel obligated to make sure that the researchers were aware "rules" of using people in their reserach (because some are not aware).  However,  I'm not the PI on the study and I would assume they would still have to jump through all the hoops required by their university (CITI human subjects training, full IRB review if there were children or deception involved, etc.).  I am not the reviewer so it is up to the researcher's university to review the study and it is up to the researcher to adhere to the protocol or answer to the university’s board of ethics.  If it is an army grant, the army also has its own IRB you also have to answer to.  But I see your point, and maybe it IS different to be hired as part of a research team as a freelancer on this board than it is to be hired as the human subjects expert on a local research team.

 

That said, this is probably far outside the question and intent of the original poster. 

 

-Michelle



Nope. I find that absolutely relevant to understanding the classification of legit academic writing versus plagiarism. 

 

 

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Kathy S Member Since: Jul 3, 2017
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Joerg A Member Since: Apr 23, 2016
23 of 30

Not certain if anybody is still interested in this thread, but I give it a go anyway.

 

'Academic Writing' and 'Scientific Writing' are different categories. Well, you possibly could say, 'Academic Writing' is the (very little) sister of 'Scientific Writing'.

 

'Academic Writing' is institutional itself, always related to respective educational facilities, and mostly for curricula purposes. In this sense, 'Academic Writing' for others is not immoral, but a fraud by everybody involved (client and ghostwriter).

 

An 'Academic Writer' on the other side, is someone with a regarding education and experience in the field (e.g. publishing scientific articles on the results of research from university projects). There is nothing wrong with hiring an 'Academic Writer' for writing tasks of any kind, in fact, tangible competencies in this field will likely mean higher quality and profound writing skills.

 

From the point of the freelancer, I suggest including 'Academic Writing' to your skills when having experience with research papers outside of the common course scheme.

 

I hope this made sense. Let me know what you think.

Have a great time freelancing!!!

 

Best,

Joerg

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
24 of 30

@Joerg A wrote:

Not certain if anybody is still interested in this thread, but I give it a go anyway.

 

'Academic Writing' and 'Scientific Writing' are different categories. Well, you possibly could say, 'Academic Writing' is the (very little) sister of 'Scientific Writing'.

 

'Academic Writing' is institutional itself, always related to respective educational facilities, and mostly for curricula purposes. In this sense, 'Academic Writing' for others is not immoral, but a fraud by everybody involved (client and ghostwriter).

 

An 'Academic Writer' on the other side, is someone with a regarding education and experience in the field (e.g. publishing scientific articles on the results of research from university projects). There is nothing wrong with hiring an 'Academic Writer' for writing tasks of any kind, in fact, tangible competencies in this field will likely mean higher quality and profound writing skills.

 

From the point of the freelancer, I suggest including 'Academic Writing' to your skills when having experience with research papers outside of the common course scheme.

 

I hope this made sense. Let me know what you think.

Have a great time freelancing!!!

 

Best,

Joerg


The trouble is, that "academic writing" (which also covers scientific writing) has come to convey a second meaning in the internet world and will hide the true purpose of many "clients" who are looking to have their course work to be written for them. (Much like "eroticism", that is often used as a term to whitewash outright pornography.)

 

I came across an "academic writing" job today that I reported and I think has been removed, but among the topics of the work to be done was this:

 

 "What do you most value? What do you want your students to value most? What ethical principles will guide you?"

 

I felt like crying.

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Joerg A Member Since: Apr 23, 2016
25 of 30

Smiley Happy Good to know, that future education is safe...

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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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Joerg, based solely on your last line - I like you.  Smiley Happy

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
27 of 30

I'm opening this thread again - one of many on the same topic. 

 

When is Upwork going to to do something about blatant academic fraud - particularly those essay mills who come to Upwork to find freelancers whose ethics are non-existent?

 

In the last couple of days in my job feed, I have seen the same job posted for a course work asssignment, which to my certain knowledge has been flagged at least twice  and certainly by me. This job and the client's other job also for course work was awarded. 

 

I was thanked for flagging and told that "action has been taken" which is patently untrue. 

 

This is the time of year when academic cheating is rampant and Upwork should be a little more vigilant. It is so shaming to think that I am part of a set-up that keeps turning a blind eye to people who not only subscribe to this sort of fraud, but who have no notion of the difference between wrong and right.  

 

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Goran V Moderator Member Since: Mar 24, 2017
28 of 30

Hi Nichola,

Just to confirm that not all taken actions are public. Thank you for flagging this type of jobs, we appreciate your help. 


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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
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@Goran V wrote:

Hi Nichola,

Just to confirm that not all taken actions are public. Thank you for flagging this type of jobs, we appreciate your help. 

 

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 Goran,

I haven't the faintest idea what this is supposed to mean. The job in question is  blatant academic fraud. There is the slightest difference between the first time  this was posted  and the second. The first time, the "client" posted a pdf of what was clearly a course assignment. The second time that pdf (of which I have a copy) was not present. 

 

If you had "appreciated my help", you would also have helped everyone who works on this platform understand what this means: 

  • Seeking, offering, or endorsing any services that violate the academic policies of any educational institution;
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Avery O Moderator Member Since: Nov 23, 2015
30 of 30

Hi Nichola, 


I'm sorry if Goran's response may have confused you. He means that not all actions taken on a job post, or client can be shared to the Community, especially if these actions are based on a ToS violation. 

I wanted to check if you are still seeing the job posts you have mentioned on your reply? If so, will you please send the links to me via a private message so that I can reconfirm if actions have been taken on them. 

Thank you!


-Avery
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