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Re: EXPERT-VETTED - Upwork criteria fail

kochubei_valeria
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Valeria K Community Manager Member Since: Mar 6, 2014
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Hi Bev,

 

I was looking into this and it does look like the badge is showing differently on your profile and My Stats page, which is odd. I asked the team to create a support ticket for you so that we could further investigate this and keep you updated. You'll be receiving an email notification with updates.

Thanks for flagging this to us.

~ Valeria
Upwork
filip_knezevic
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Filip K Member Since: May 22, 2017
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Question for Upwork.

Are there plans to enable Expert-Vetted program for freelancers from other highly technical backgrounds?

Seems only programmers can be expert-vetted, while cloud, system and network engineers cannot, which somehow doesn't seem fair.




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bstojadinovic
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Bojan S Moderator Member Since: Mar 9, 2018
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Hi Filip,

 

Currently, the Expert-Vetted program is by invitation only in select skill categories. However, we are slowly rolling it out and plan to gradually increase the number of freelancers we vet in more categories.

~ Bojan
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filip_knezevic
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Filip K Member Since: May 22, 2017
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Thanks, Bojan.

I think this can apply to all highly techical professions.

Looking forward to expending the Expert-Vetted program. Smiley Happy

And leave early payments on! We like those Smiley Very Happy




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hidemi-takagi
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Hidemi T Member Since: Aug 5, 2017
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Just wanted to see if anyone is with me in a suggestion to improve how Upwork is evaluating freelancers for "Top Rated Plus".

At the moment, we have the following requirements:

Top Rated
Earned over $10,000+ in the past 12 months
Worked on a large contract in the past 12 months
 
looking at the "Worked on a large contract in the past 12 months"  - the definition for "large contract" is as follows:

Large Contracts 

The criteria for a “large contract” is specific to the contract category. We base these amounts on the opportunities currently available on Upwork. For example, in certain categories, a large contract might be one with earnings of $5,000 but in others it might be a $20,000 or $30,000 contract.

Now - I am fine with those amounts but my suggestion is to change the requirement from "Large Contracts" to "Large Accounts" which means that the system will calculate earnings of $5,000, $20,000 or $30,000 not to any particular contract but for a total sum of the contract you have with a client.

The reason and logic for that change in the definition are that in many cases, we have clients we work with on large projects which broken down to a few contracts.

Looking only at individual contracts as a criteria for "large" is not the right way to evaluate the $ value -  the right way to do it is to calculate the total sum of all the contracts you have with each particular client and if that amount passed 5k, 20k or 30k - that will be the sum the system should evaluate for the criteria as "large" and bump you up for Top Rated Plus.

Anyone with me on that and see the logic in it? 

hidemi-takagi
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Hidemi T Member Since: Aug 5, 2017
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inquisitive-stha
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Saroj S Member Since: Jan 24, 2018
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@Hidemi

Maybe it's because of Sunday.

Well, just my opinion. At first glance, your suggestion looks great. However, if you take a deeper look let's take two scenarios:

 

1) A freelancer who created just 50 simple blogs costs $15000 in total from the same client. 

2) Another freelancer created just a single web app, which requires more depth knowledge as the database starts to grow, you need to show huge datasets on a single view.

 

So, I don't think these two freelancers should be in the same frame its because, for the second work, you need more in-depth knowledge.

Anyway, why don't you request your client to give all projects through a single contract? That should be your main focus. 

marafx
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Antonia B. V Member Since: Sep 12, 2017
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Since the new system has been set in place many of us are waiting to be called for the EXPERT-VETTED team. 
Reading through the requirements some makes me think Upwork, somehow  ignore that among the PLUS  freelancers in marketing section, there are also Google Partners with not only certifications for 2020, but with specialisations that means they manage budgets far higher than  a simple certified  person, and do this  the right way.
But no, EXPERT-VETTED seems  has nothing to do with the quality of work, at least not for the marketing section.

I for my side am one of them- managing over $6mil/yer budget, have 100% client satisfaction, have 2 specialities as Google partner... but for Upwork... guess I'm not good enough despite being hired 99% of the times I get in contact with a client and having years long contracts....
Guess what... anyone in my situation we are not considered EXPERT-VETTED for some upworkian illogical reasons.

feed_my_eyes
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Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
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Antonia B. V wrote:

Since the new system has been set in place many of us are waiting to be called for the EXPERT-VETTED team. 
Reading through the requirements some makes me think Upwork, somehow  ignore that among the PLUS  freelancers in marketing section, there are also Google Partners with not only certifications for 2020, but with specialisations that means they manage budgets far higher than  a simple certified  person, and do this  the right way.
But no, EXPERT-VETTED seems  has nothing to do with the quality of work, at least not for the marketing section.

I for my side am one of them- managing over $6mil/yer budget, have 100% client satisfaction, have 2 specialities as Google partner... but for Upwork... guess I'm not good enough despite being hired 99% of the times I get in contact with a client and having years long contracts....
Guess what... anyone in my situation we are not considered EXPERT-VETTED for some upworkian illogical reasons.


Well, I did get Experted Vetted and my invitations have massively declined since then (and nothing at all from Business or Enterprise clients); I don't think I've even experienced the usual rotation to the top of the search results since late June. IMO, you're not missing out on anything.

vladag
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Vladimir G Community Manager Member Since: Oct 31, 2014
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Hi Antonia,

Thanks for reaching out and I'm sorry you feel this way regarding the Expert Vetted program. To clarify, we are inviting freelancers to be vetted based on their skills and reputation and also on the demand for their skills in our marketplace. Right now we are slowly rolling out this option but plan to gradually increase the number of freelancers we vet. We are initially prioritizing freelancers who have already been successful on Upwork (as indicated by client feedback, Top Rated status, and contract history) but will also expand to newer freelancers in the coming months.

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