Ayodele A wrote:
Please i would love to learn how to detect these red flags. So i don't submit proposals to certain jobs.
Sometimes the red flags aren't obvious from the job posting, but you came here to ask about some fishy terms and conditions, so your spidey sense is working.
The challenging thing when you are new to the platform (regardless of your past experience), you are vulnerable to a lot of client scams or very poorly paying jobs.
Here a few flags:
Asking for personal information (i.e. SS #, etc) they don't need that, Upwork handles all the money
Asking you to sign a separate contract, in general Upworks terms should cover most needs. That said, I sign NDAs all the time because many of my clients share personal information with me. I have no issue with that.
Asking you to a Google Hangout. Communicating off Upwork is perfectly fine, but for some reason there is a scam connected to Google Hangouts Specifically
Don't start working without an accepted offer and live contract
There are tons of resources in this forum and help articles, take a look!
Ayodele A wrote:
Thank you so much, you guys are awesome.
I think you have already shown some good skill at finding your own red flags but I think in all things if it is too good to be true, it is too good to be true.
I also think that relationships are built to trust but cannot start with distrust. If the client shows me any sign or excuse that they are doing things out of distrust or because of past experience I am done with them. I don't pay for other people's mistakes.
A good client relationship is collaborative. I don't work for them, we work together. I can't say this applies across the board for all areas of work but I am not being brought on to be told what to do but to tell my clients what needs to be done. One of the reasons I am a freelancer is I can work with anybody but I want to work for almost nobody.
Beyond that be careful, and if you are unsure post about it here and someone will help you.
I stopped reading at:
"Sometimes, you have to accept writing projects that you do not want, if management needs help."
No. I never have to "accept" any project I do not want. I choose the projects I want. And I don't have "management."
When, in another life, I did have to answer to management, I came to realize that their "needs" were infinite. My resources were finite. End of that story.
The Community has been really helpful with giving you great tips on how to be safe on Upwork. I usually share these freelancer resources we have compiled, for great tips and insights on how you can work successfully, and safely on the platform. I highly recommend that you don't forget to read the Safety First! section of the resources, and these tips for avoiding questionable jobs for more information about working safely through Upwork.