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Expensive Connects and Unresponsive Clients

Ace Contributor
Polyniki V Member Since: May 1, 2019
11 of 30

I would like too to get my connects back when a client closes the job with no hire or simply never hires someone, never responds and leaves the job open for ages. I have also seen several times clients post a job ad, not hire anyone and repost exactly the same ad some days later. Not renew the add, simply post a new ad with the same contents. This is so fustrating.

Ace Contributor
Ayan B Member Since: Feb 1, 2010
12 of 30

 You are correct Smiley Happy

Community Guru
Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
13 of 30

Ayan B wrote:

 

Solution B - When any client post the job then he should to choose a deadtime of starting that project. If timeline fails then job will be auto cancel and we will get back our connects.

 

I'm so tired of other freelancers trying to ruin my business just because it operates differently than theirs. This oft-proposed plan would have cheated me of at least $25,000 over the past couple of years, since many of my best clients take a few weeks to a few months to hire.

 

Clients who are looking for the best-qualified, highly-skilled freelancer don't jump to hire. They take time to find the right fit, just like an employer does for a high-level job.

Community Guru
Amanda L Member Since: Jan 23, 2018
14 of 30

I agree. A potential client closed the job I applied for but they still want to hire me, they just don't know when they are starting the project. So we are keeping in touch, and eventually it will be a big project for me. But I have been talking to them for 6 months. It is the nature of how these contracts often work in my field, especially working with researchers doing scientific research and waiting to see if their data is ready to apply for an SBIR. A potential client in good faith may not understand exactly what their needs are in my field, and I help them figure it out. It can result in bigger projects or smaller, but more frequent projects, but it takes time to develop the right scope of work. One client posted an initial budget of $3500 but then wanted to split the project in half and try out the first phase of the project, then continue if we were successful. We were, and she did do another contract with me.  

 

Maybe it's just the nature of my business. I am very selective about which jobs I apply for, and that can mean fewer proposals because there are a lot of jobs that have one sentence descriptions, and I don't want to waste time getting into a discussion with someone who isn't even eligible for a grant or has no chance of getting one. I don't want to ruin my job success (not JSS, but my personal grant success rate) or waste their money applying for something I know they won't get. It's a matter of ethics. 

 

But limited the amount of time an RFP is open could have big ramifications on me being able to close deals with clients, which can take longer in my field as a lot of the proposal process is educating the client on how grant seeking works and what they should expect and what is possible. 

Community Leader
Lester B Member Since: Sep 22, 2018
15 of 30

Ayan, Exactly.

 

This is my problem now... too costly...

I did many revisions on my profile , opened up topics to help me stand out the crowd because my jss is somehow i dont know why at 63%... too low for me to get hired.

No clients , no source of income. spent my last money for connects searching for "Hope"

1 week later got nothing.

Job post eats up our connects and unfortunately we cannot do refund unless job post is closed.

I am losing hope now.

Freelancers need help too...

I prefer the old rules where others can get free 80 connects each month. 

If you are new... you will have doubt on investing something here with very low probability of getting a job.

 

Active Member
Karolis S Member Since: Jun 11, 2019
16 of 30

From a business(upwork) stand point this makes a lot of sense. If you are not careful you can blow 60-70  connects within 2-3 days, maybe 1 if you just bid on everything, if you are very very very  picky about projects which you choose to bet on, I'd estimate it would take maybe week and a half to place 10-15 bids (at least in my field). Now upwork states that on average it should take you 5$ per month to fill all your bidding needs (which is a complete joke in my opinion when considering competition, fake job postings and straight up irrational behavior of the market ). Especially if you are starting freelancer. If you are hunting for high profile (i guess anything above 200 usd is high profile project for upwork) projects (6 connects) choosing carefully, placing ~2 bids per day you'd need 240-360 connects per month. 

Their stock price is not shinning and this new connect policy is a new attempt to squeeze that additional income from freelancers and boost numbers for investors. It also doesn't workout if you are a new client as top talent would most likely avoid bidding on your project as you have 0 history. 

Community Guru
Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
17 of 30

I haven't been in the open marketplace in a couple weeks, but bidding on even just one a day every day is hard. When I haven't been around for a while, I can usually find a couple right away but then I don't see anything for a few days after that.

 

I don't win much in the open marketplace anymore. Most of my stuffs goes into the void Smiley Very Happy

Community Guru
Richard W Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
18 of 30

Karolis S wrote:

From a business(upwork) stand point this makes a lot of sense. If you are not careful you can blow 60-70  connects within 2-3 days, maybe 1 if you just bid on everything, if you are very very very  picky about projects which you choose to bet on, I'd estimate it would take maybe week and a half to place 10-15 bids (at least in my field). Now upwork states that on average it should take you 5$ per month to fill all your bidding needs (which is a complete joke in my opinion when considering competition, fake job postings and straight up irrational behavior of the market ). Especially if you are starting freelancer. If you are hunting for high profile (i guess anything above 200 usd is high profile project for upwork) projects (6 connects) choosing carefully, placing ~2 bids per day you'd need 240-360 connects per month. 


If you average 2 bids per day (60 per month) you'll be spending LESS on connects now than you would have done in the old system. In the old system you would have got the first 30 bids free, but then you would have paid $60 for the other 30 bids. In the new system your 240-360 connects only cost you $36-$54.

Active Member
Karolis S Member Since: Jun 11, 2019
19 of 30

Looking at it, it seems like joke of a system, but I'll reserve my full judgement. But 1 thing is clear, they are attempting to monetize everything they can on this platform. Upwork by far has the highest fees/maintenance costs.

Ace Contributor
Ayan B Member Since: Feb 1, 2010
20 of 30

You are correct. Upwork simply takes our hard earning. Unresponsive Clients issue is really horrible. Day by Day, Upwork changes and updates pricing plan. But they dont take any step for Unresponsive Clients

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