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elastella
Member

JS score update due tomorrow!

 

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heavenmade
Member

love it can't wait yippee

 

setumonroe
Member

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Robot LOL

heavenmade
Member

zoomconcepts
Member

christian1220
Member

Negative private feedback breaks my heart

 

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laherz
Member

So I just recently became "active" on upwork. What will this do for me? I have no JS right now.

 

Actually, I just checked. Might be nice to see that score. 

We're doomed..

 

I am safe with an increment of 1%.

Well I went from 100% to 98% (with 5 no feedback given out of 86 jobs)

I went from 99 to 96 after five contracts ended with no feedback as part of last week's mess. I also have two other open contracts with clients who disappeared into thin air, so I guess things are about to get worse. Four of the contracts closed last week were long term ones with the same client, so no, long-term jobs don't have a nice effect on the JS score to counterbalance the lack of feedback. 

97 to 91 after upwork closed the contract and didn't fix the error after profile merge....

michael-remus
Member

Six contracts were closed without feeback, JS raised from 98% to 100%. So it is not as dramatically as I've thought when the contracts were closed, although I believe the activity in the past two weeks has a positive influence (new clients, restart of long term contract with occasional work).

No change is JS for me ๐Ÿ˜ž After geting a Good prvt Feedback ๐Ÿ˜›

"One thing I know, that I know nothing. This is the source of my wisdom"

How do you know you got a good private feedback?

My client is like a good friend and if there was any bad prvt fd then my JS need to be decreased.

"One thing I know, that I know nothing. This is the source of my wisdom"

Thanks Mr M. Didn't mean to doubt you.

 

My score went down today 98 to 97 after they closed six jobs (but one gave feedback at the eleventh hour). OK, it's only one point, and the score's high enough. But why I'm ripping angry is that this was imposed on me by Upwork, by doing the exact thing that they've advised against for months, while I had been carefully trying to manage the situation to avoid this happening.

 

It also gives a bit of insight into the vague mumblings of "a significant percentage of jobs" that we keep hearing. Because even though five in a row is an ugly scar on my profile, that's less than 2% of my jobs!

 

Ho hum, onward and three steps forward, two steps back...

I must be missing something. My understanding of the JS update is that there is never any certainty that one's most recent activity will affect the score, because of the 3-date snapshot system. As mentioned before, much anxiety and speculation could be avoided if Upwork would show us the three snapshots when they update the score, so that we have some context for understanding any change.

 

Best to all,

Michael

 

edit: Struck assertion was based on flawed understanding, addressed below.

The score closest to 100% is almost always the shortest line.

 

On a different note, I am convinced of a 3 month line - but I don't want to be banned.

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suznee
Member

I think the JS is broken. Mine dropped the last time and this time nothing changed in my stats or the JS score. Nothing at all and a contract with a long term client changed.

 

Everything is exactly the same as it was when the previous client gave me a 7 on if he would recommend me, but it seems weird my long term clients did not budge considering this was a long term contract that closed and as Mr M stated I know the private feedback was good. 

 

 

nikkigaskins
Member

Surprisingly, my score went up by one percentage point....from 93% to 94%.

 

HOWEVER, the number of clients that would recommend me apparently dropped from 95% to 91% Smiley Sad

 

That I don't understand...or still the whole JSS thing for that matter really.

 

*sigh*

 

Nikki

jamesseligman
Member

I went from 95% to 94%, not a big deal. It's not like I've gotten more invites, more interviews, more jobs because f it.

 

Funny thing is that I think I was getting more projects when I wasn't top rated.

heavenmade
Member

Hi Guys

I think this is a False Flag! I don't think you will see the full effects of all the job closes until the next  Job Success update.

Why you may ask? My understanding is!

The only way this would not be the case is if the client and the freelancer  leaves feedback from that dormant job before the 14 day period is over.


Your Job Success Scores will be hit on the next update!!!


@Ian David John E wrote:


Your Job Success Scores will be hit on the next update!!!


Why?

 

Assume the worst: Mass auto job closure makes a big, atypical hit in one's point-in-time JS. If it's atypical enough, it will never show. It will roll off the time frame after being eclipsed by the typical better scores each and every time the JS is calculated, no?

 

Still puzzled,

Michael

Hi Michael,

 

Trust me I don't want to be the bringer of bad news! Who does? All I know is the effects will not show up until the next update. As the auto job closures are in a 14 day state of limbo.....

 

Hi Ian,

          I am not sure who gave you this information that effects do not show up until next update. Somebody I know had her JS decreased by 12% because of a bad contract that was closed just a day before the calculation. If what you are saying would have been the case than her JS would not have decreased in this update and should have taken a hit in the next update. 

Hi Sadan

 

All i know is it would not have been caused by the auto job closures thats for sure! As i said there is a 14 day state of limbo.......

Ian is correct.

Unless all the clients for the closed jobs mysteriously left feedback already, the effects wont show until 14 days later; which would be on the next update.

That is assuming that Upwork has not implemented something to cushion the blow this time, since they blundered.
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Hi Setu,

 

Thank you for confirming what I said!

 

Setu said: "That is assuming that Upwork has not implemented something to cushion the blow this time, since they blundered."

 

 

Setui I really hope so!!! Time will tell.....

Ian,

      My JS score increased by 10% because of a job that was closed couple of hours before the previous update and just to let you know I had not left any feedback for the client by that time. Also if you read the blog post regarding the JS it calculates all the contracts that were closed before the update. Also one or two contracts with no feedback do not affect the JS in any way. 


@Sadan M wrote:

Ian,

      My JS score increased by 10% because of a job that was closed couple of hours before the previous update and just to let you know I had not left any feedback for the client by that time. Also if you read the blog post regarding the JS it calculates all the contracts that were closed before the update. Also one or two contracts with no feedback do not affect the JS in any way. 


 

You can't really go off of that though. What fell off on the other end of old projects? I haven't seen Upwork say this, but Elance weighted your score against others, so if they do the same, you don't know how others are doing. Maybe they tweaked the algo that affected you negatively.

 

Really can't say unless Upwork specifically tells you that they calculate all jobs even if they are recent. 


@Ian David John E wrote:

Hi Michael,

 

Trust me I don't want to be the bringer of bad news! Who does? All I know is the effects will not show up until the next update. As the auto job closures are in a 14 day state of limbo.....

 


This makes sense. Upwork really doesn't know the job success yet since the client can still leave feedback positive or negative. It would make sense that recent gigs aren't calculated yet. 

sadanmasroor
Member

One possibility I do see is that they added the cushion to exclude the contracts closed by them because they never thought of issues this might pose on the contractors JS score.

It would be really good if Upwork really did make an exception. But from a stats point of view, at least we would now know what a "pattern of no feedback meant." 5? 8? 10? contracts with no feedback. 

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Setu, Ian,

 

OK, I get what you're saying about the fourteen days.

 

And I agree, if there's a hit, Upwork should fix it.

 

And...

 

I still don't get how any atypical big hit will ever drive the published score down. Won't any atypically low score be trumped by a more representative one?

 

Still puzzled,

Michael.

 

edit: Addressed below.


@Douglas Michael M wrote:

 

I still don't get how any atypical big hit will ever drive the published score down. Won't any atypically low score be trumped by a more representative one?

 

Still puzzled,

Michael


 You a correct that it shouldn't drive the published score down, but it will slip. The 2-year line is the truest representation of the freelancer's JSS, but also usually the lowest and the slowest to respond to changes. But for a freelancer who was doing well, even the 1-year line should not be far apart from the 6-month line.

 

So yes, there may no be a drastic change. Unless great strides were made in the last 6 months, like a 100% JSS.

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