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Jobs Requiring Expert Level and Explicitly Informing a Low Hourly Rate

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Izaias A Member Since: Jun 21, 2018
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Hi all,

I'm seeing a lot of jobs being opened by clients, where they require expert level and then in the job description they say that the pay rate is $5 to $7 per hour, for example.

I don't know if other freelancers are also feeling this, but there's a banalization of expert jobs. All clients create projects looking for experts but then hire someone at $5/h which obviously isn't an expert.

Upwork, can you do something about this? Maybe require a limit to the job hourly/fixed rate, or charge the client to create the expert job?

It's getting harder and harder to really understand who is looking for an expert and who is looking for a bargain. Expert jobs should mean something.


Cheers!
Izaias Almeida

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Mark F Member Since: Jul 10, 2018
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I don’t really want Upwork involved with this because I have seen nothing to make me think they are qualified.

If I see a job that is at a ridiculous rate I just don’t apply or if I do, I certainly do it at my rate. Clients don’t get to decide what they pay, I am pretty sure they would choose free, so why should I let these suggestions bother me.

I think everyone who does what I do should charge as much as I do but hardly anyone does. They have their reasons and I have mine.
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Tonya P Member Since: Nov 26, 2015
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Expert means nothing. Ignore the term. Look at the $.

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Abid H Member Since: Dec 9, 2017
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hahaha

 

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Izaias A Member Since: Jun 21, 2018
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Hi Mark, thanks for your reply.

I disagree with you here. I obviously don't apply to jobs where the client wants an "expert" but also wants to pay what an undergraduate student would get.

If you don't think Upwork is qualified, why are you using their platform? In my option, they are more than qualified for this and, since the expert field is there, they either should make it worth or just remove it.

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Mark F Member Since: Jul 10, 2018
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Because they don’t do what I do for the clients I did it for! If you feel they are qualified to say this rate is too little are you prepared for them to say this rate is too much? I am not.

I want them to stay out of it and I can choose to convince a client to go higher...or not. And if someone is willing to do the job at way lower than me...that’s their mistake.

I use the platform to find projects...but if they get into the rate business I will find another one.
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Rene K Member Since: Jul 10, 2014
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Izaias A wrote:

 In my option, they are more than qualified for this 


You have no idea how wrong you are. You do not want Upwork to mess with this. Or anything else.

 

You are not applying to those jobs, so you're okay and you certainly don't need Upwork to interfere with your own business decisions.

 

If someone wants to take on those jobs, good for them. Not your problem. Not mine. Move on. 

 

 

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Ambrož B Member Since: Aug 7, 2019
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5 dollars is high Smiley Tongue ... I saw also worse job posts Smiley Tongue

 

But anyway ... I do not even read what "skills level the client selected", everything that counts is job description, and feelings about other data when I looking the posts. You can simply ignore "beginning/expert level" section.

I think it can only be used in job search filter, but yes ... if you know that this section is useless, then you will not use it. I miss some other options in job search filter, and probably the best would be that Upwork remove "skills level filter", with something useable.  Maybe the basic idea is not bad, but I think clients just clicking it "randomly". 

 

Much more funny are situations when a client write a whole list what freelancer's skills he/she is looking for (sometimes it could be printed on A4 page), and then the expected hour rate is 3-4$/h, or 10$ fixed.

 

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Lukas E Member Since: Sep 12, 2019
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Lukas E Member Since: Sep 12, 2019
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