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Observation: The Community is similar to other social media, with the same dangers for freelancers

Community Guru
Bill H Member Since: Aug 18, 2017
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Anybody heard of someone acing a job interview only to be turned down for a six-figure salary because of what was found on social media? "Mr. Smith, we would love to offer you the job, but that video on FB of you setting cats on fire convinced us to hire someone less likely to suffer a psychotic break."

 

I read job applicants' posts in the Community. Those who display attitudes of entitlement, resentment or superiority are rejected. Those who offer helpful advice are on the interview list. Maybe I'm an unusual client. What if I'm not?

Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Bill H wrote:


I read job applicants' posts in the Community. Those who display attitudes of entitlement, resentment or superiority are rejected. Those who offer helpful advice are on the interview list. Maybe I'm an unusual client. What if I'm not?


Easy.

Clients who would be deterred by my forum posts would not enjoy working with me anyway.

 

I choose clients largely by how likely they are to enjoy working with me long term, because I am after the large, long term, repeat relationships.

If they get indignant by a bit of directness or sacasm, I am better off without them.

I have actually been hired a few (handful of times?) by people who saw me in the forum first.

 

Anyone who stalks freelancers and rejects them for what they do in their spare time (as long as it does not involve burning kitties) - Good Riddance. For employment maybe, for freelancing, nope.

 

Considering how tiny the percentage of Upwork users who actively use the forum is, and that there is no easy way to find someone's posts, you would have too be lucky to find some random applicant's post.

 

Community Guru
Jessica S Member Since: Dec 4, 2015
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Bill H wrote:

Anybody heard of someone acing a job interview only to be turned down for a six-figure salary because of what was found on social media? "Mr. Smith, we would love to offer you the job, but that video on FB of you setting cats on fire convinced us to hire someone less likely to suffer a psychotic break."

 

I read job applicants' posts in the Community. Those who display attitudes of entitlement, resentment or superiority are rejected. Those who offer helpful advice are on the interview list. Maybe I'm an unusual client. What if I'm not?


Many clients don't even know how to use the platform. They don't seem to have time to go through videos and articles to learn how to use it much less read through the forums. I would guess most don't even know this forum exists.

 

Clearly, you don't see a million+ freelancers posting on here - it's a typical small group of regulars (for the most part) so chances are HIGHLY likely you won't find any comments from prospective freelancers on the forum. Do you read every post in every thread in hopes of finding one? I am not sure your comment makes sense.

Community Guru
Melanie H Member Since: Nov 2, 2017
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I haven’t heard of an interviewer actually stating this as the reason but I’m sure it must happen. Many employers check prospective employees’ SM (just the usual suspects - FB, Twitter).

I don’t know about this forum specifically. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a project from a client who routinely posts here or run across a former/current client here.
Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Melanie H wrote:
 Many employers check prospective employees’ SM (just the usual suspects - FB, Twitter).

Employees - maybe

Clients looking to hire a freenancer - probably not / rarely

Community Guru
Melanie H Member Since: Nov 2, 2017
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Petra R wrote:

Melanie H wrote:
 Many employers check prospective employees’ SM (just the usual suspects - FB, Twitter).

Employees - maybe

Clients looking to hire a freenancer - probably not / rarely


Well, Bill does. Smiley Very Happy So there's your rare bird right there.

 

People are up in others' business on forums; I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are more like him. Why not?

 

OTOH, if the question is whether we should self-muzzle (thanks, Jennifer! Smiley Tongue Muzzle, LOL) because of the rarer Bills, I wouldn't. Then again, I know I'm not trolling or acting in a bizarre way or anything. And as I said, I don't think any of my clients have ever been to this forum, or at least I never thought "Oh! I know that name." 

 

So...rare? Sure...(and Bill did say he feels he's probably the rare client).

 

Does it happen? EVERYTHING happens on the internet, LOL! There's one of everybody out there. And probably (quietly), way more than one.

 

Now...if Bill refuses to hire me because he doesn't like my posts on this forum, that's his prerogative. So far, my livelihood isn't suffering; I'm good. I think the question is more "does anybody else do this?" than a warning...or at least I'm going to give ya the benefit of a doubt there, Bill. Smiley Wink

Community Guru
Tonya P Member Since: Nov 26, 2015
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Melanie H wrote:
I haven’t heard of an interviewer actually stating this as the reason but I’m sure it must happen. Many employers check prospective employees’ SM (just the usual suspects - FB, Twitter).

I don’t know about this forum specifically. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a project from a client who routinely posts here or run across a former/current client here.

On two or three different occasions, I have hired editors whose posts I had seen on the forums.  

Community Guru
Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
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My reddit posts are far more incriminating. I'm muzzled here anyway.

Community Guru
Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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Bill:
It's a great point.

It's the world we live in.

 

As we move into the future, I assume there will always be people who will make judgements based on what they can Google or otherwise look up about people. And there will be people who don't do that.

 

I'm sure when it comes to hiring (or choosing clients or dating or whatnot) there are people who act like I do when I decide which jobs to apply to or who to accept hire offers from: I don't Google clients or companies. I only look at what is on Upwork. So if a client has a questionable past, they get a clean slate with me, no different than if they went to a hospital and needed to be treated by a doctor.

 

That may not work for everybody, but that works for me.

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Valeria K Moderator Member Since: Mar 6, 2014
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Hi All,

 

A few posts have been removed from this thread for Community Guidelines

Regardless of whether your potential clients or freelancers read these boards, we encourage our Community members to be professional and respectful to one another when posting here. Please, be mindful of the Community Guidelines and avoid making personal attacks.

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