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Verified Client asks to work outside of Upwork.

nymerion
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Konstantinos X Member Since: Sep 8, 2015
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 Hello. I just got a reply from a job ad I sent earlier today. Note that I only apply to clients with good history and a verified payment method. The person who replied told me to add another person who is responsible for the recruitment and tell her that I'm being referred by her (original person in message).

 

 I spoke with her on Skype, like a mini interview and she offered a position for 2$/hour for the Customer Service Specialist position which I applied and to work outside of Upworkbecause as she claimed " she doesn't want to give the fees to these guys". I immediatly refused and said I was going to report this behaviour with provided screenshots.

 

Now, I'm stuck in your delightful CS waiting for an agent to report this issue.

That's it, thanks, Rant over.

~Konstantine~

 

mwiggenhorn
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Mary W Member Since: Nov 10, 2014
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SHE doesn't pay the Upwork fee, you do.  

 

Upwork has a minimum of $3/ hour, which is why they don't want to pay through the system.  

 

Good catch and bravo for reporting them.

nymerion
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Konstantinos X Member Since: Sep 8, 2015
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I know , I told her the minimum rate is 3$ , frustration comes though when they accept your proposal with your X dollars/hour and then they tell you this two dollar per hour .

 

If the client intends to pay such a low hourly fee to his freelancer, might as well inform us on the job posting like others do.

wendy_writes
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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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Konstantine,

 

Good for you for being smart and honorable. FWIW - if the buyer comes back to you - up your rate and tell her (in more polite terms) you want some cash in front and cleared - i.e., after the money is actually deposited into your bank account - brfore you begin work.

 

aocumen
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Avery O Moderator Member Since: Nov 23, 2015
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 Hi Konstantine, 


Thank you for helping to make the platform a better place for both freelancers and clients. I have already reported this to the appropriate team to take action against the client. 

 

Avery


~ Avery
Upwork
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@Konstantine K wrote:

 Hello. I just got a reply from a job ad I sent earlier today. Note that I only apply to clients with good history and a verified payment method. The person who replied told me to add another person who is responsible for the recruitment and tell her that I'm being referred by her (original person in message).

 

 I spoke with her on Skype, like a mini interview and she offered a position for 2$/hour for the Customer Service Specialist position which I applied and to work outside of Upworkbecause as she claimed " she doesn't want to give the fees to these guys". I immediatly refused and said I was going to report this behaviour with provided screenshots.

 

Now, I'm stuck in your delightful CS waiting for an agent to report this issue.

That's it, thanks, Rant over.

~Konstantine~

 


My experience: In most cases when clients want to communicate on Skype from the beginning they want to hire outside of Upwork. I have not reported those clients, just refused. If you sent messages via Skpye you can prove that they wanted to hire off the platform, using only phone or webcam you cannot prove. That is why those clients prefer this kind of communication.

There are also clients who hire on Upwork but try to hire outside as well. This is often reflected by a low hire rate on their profile. A good example of this is a language service that comes along with job offers nearly every day, they are keen on your CV and their hiring rate is rather low.

 

458 Jobs Posted
9% Hire Rate, 141 Open Jobs

nymerion
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Konstantinos X Member Since: Sep 8, 2015
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I see. Thank you for the tips! 

 

kulkarni_ashish
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Ashish K Member Since: Mar 1, 2016
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Not all clients using skype have ulterior motives though. All my clients who used Skype have been great.

wendy_writes
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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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I agree with Ashish; Skype is fine - and very often the best method for determining the exact scope of the job and if you and the buyer will have a good working relationship.

 

If a potential client wants to have a Skype chat just make sure you have a list of points to cover so you can keep the conversation on track and fruitful.

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@Wendy C wrote:

I agree with Ashish; Skype is fine - and very often the best method for determining the exact scope of the job and if you and the buyer will have a good working relationship.

 

If a potential client wants to have a Skype chat just make sure you have a list of points to cover so you can keep the conversation on track and fruitful.


Skype can be good when not used for hiring outside of Upwork. Some of us had a good experience others not. And Upwork loses a lot of money this way.

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