Feb 16, 2021 11:51:59 AM by Cecilia M
Solved! Go to Solution.
Jun 7, 2022 12:34:05 PM Edited May 3, 2023 01:26:57 PM by Andrea G
Hi Zahra and Muhammad Hamdoon,
This thread has been closed from further replies due to its size. We appreciate your participation in the Community and welcome you to continue the conversation on this new thread.
Thank you!
Jun 10, 2022 08:29:17 AM Edited Jun 10, 2022 01:24:55 PM by Valeria K
I want to know why Upwork has automatically refunded the amount to the client? I discussed this with the client about this issue and he said that "it appears to me that you refunded the amount to me" and he didn't ask for a refund.
It's an urge to the concerned authorities to please look onto this matter and let me know why this refund is initiated?
(Invoice #: 481937910
Description: (29409987)
**Edited for Community Guidelines** - 25:00 hrs @ description3.00/hr
- 05/23/2022 - 05/29/2022
Amount Refunded: $54.21)
Thanking you in advance
Kind regards
Muhammad
Jun 10, 2022 09:02:59 AM by Andrea G
Jun 10, 2022 09:50:48 AM by Muhammad A
I understand but I checked the work diary as per the dates mentioned, all the hours of that week were logged by the Upwork app. I also delivered all the work of that week and the client didn't have any issues as well.
Can someone explain it to me?
Thank you for your response
Kind regards
Muhammad
Sep 24, 2022 03:54:27 AM Edited Sep 24, 2022 06:35:10 AM by Annie Jane B
Why does every moderator use this kind of **Edited for Community Guidelines** response? I have read all the above queries and everyone gets almost the same response from different moderators.
I also face this type of issue a year ago. my client paid one milestone and get what he wanted. after that, he's not responding back. I have emailed the Upwork team and they do nothing but answer me they can't do anything in this matter. There are many problems freelancers faces in Upwork. And the fun part is this, Upwork team does nothing to help freelancers.
Sep 24, 2022 07:49:02 AM by Annie Jane B
Hi Zubair,
Thank you for reaching out to us. Apologies if you find the moderators' responses redundant as the same information has to be relayed for the same concerns.
Can you please share the contract ID number so we can check this for you?
Jan 25, 2023 10:04:32 AM by George M
Hello, Muhammad! Did Upwork resolve this for you finally and you got all money that you worked for?
Thank you
Jun 10, 2022 11:47:21 AM Edited Jun 10, 2022 12:18:06 PM by Arjay M
It is the second time in less than a month that I have a chargeback. It's actually very easy for Ann from the Upwork Chargeback Department to just send me the notification and make the force refund.
As this is an automatically refund that I can't do anything about it, what if every client asks the bank for this chargeback?
I believe freelancers are not covered at all by any Upwork antifraud protection and this is actually very concern.
**Edited for Community Guidelines**
Jun 10, 2022 12:44:10 PM by Arjay M
Hi Daniela,
We appreciate you reaching out to us and I'm sorry to hear about this unpleasant experience you had with a client. I can see that you've been exchanging messages with the team handling your case and I highly suggest you continue communicating with them for updates and further assistance. You can also communicate with our team through this support ticket that's been created with your concern.
Jun 14, 2022 06:18:02 PM by Peter G
If they ask for a chargeback, they get it. But Upwork can then suspend them if they want to.
Jun 7, 2022 02:54:11 PM by Anna Maica O
I did not get a refund request but Upwork gave my client a refund while his account is suspended. No explanation whatsoever. How is that possible?
Jun 7, 2022 05:20:14 PM by Joanne P
Hi Anna Maica,
I've shared your concern about your refunded earnings with the team. One of our agents will reach out and assist you further via a support ticket.
Aug 23, 2022 01:49:40 PM by Penelope M
Have the same issue just today. Client's account was suspended on Friday, suspension is still active to this date, then received a notification stating I refunded x amount of money to my client. All my hours are logged on Upwork's time tracker, no manual time as this was not allowed by my client, and I still received this notification.
Could someone help pls. thanks!
Aug 23, 2022 03:33:06 PM by Arjay M
Hi Penelope,
I'm sorry to hear about the unexpected refund that's been processed on your account. Please note that when the client fails to pay for hours logged by the freelancer, any hours that aren't covered by Upwork Hourly Protection may be reversed. We highly suggest you communicate with the team through the email you've received so that they can assist you more efficiently. We seek your patience and utmost understanding while we address the issue.
Jun 7, 2022 05:27:50 PM by Peter G
It's possible because Upwork does not notify or explain to you beforehand, or ask or need your permission to do that. Just like you are doing now, it's up to you to try to figure out what happened afterwards.
Aug 9, 2022 04:47:55 PM by Jessica D
This happened to me too. Started the contract, submitted hours and work, and today I received a notice that I refunded the client money that I never received, for work I did, but looks like I will not be paid for...
Aug 9, 2022 05:05:01 PM by Peter G
If you used the time tracker 100% correctly, Upwork should pay you themselves. If you logged hours manually, or if it was fixed price, you will never get paid for the work you did.
Jun 14, 2022 11:54:24 AM by Ariful Islam S
Jun 14, 2022 12:02:27 PM by Peter G
The term "refund" is misleading and Upwork needs to fix that and be more clear about what happened. They most likey were unable to charge the client for some reason. And unless you used the time tracker, you will probably never get paid.
Jun 14, 2022 01:20:56 PM by Arjay M
Hi Ariful,
I'm sorry to hear about the unexpected refund that's been processed on your account. Please note that when the client fails to pay for hours logged by the freelancer, any hours that aren't covered by Upwork Hourly Protection may be reversed.
The team will also be reaching out to you directly via email with more information on how to proceed. We seek your patience and utmost understanding while we address this incident.
Jun 14, 2022 06:14:29 PM by Gregory F
I got an interesting take on this apparently common scam. I got $300k+ earnings with 7k logged hours, but this is the first time this happened to me.
Client hires me and says he needs the job done within a week (I guess that should have been a warning sign). I completed the work, which included state-of-the-art research. Then on Tuesday after says that there's an issue with payment.
Then, before the day of the payment, I receive an email from Upwork accusing me of using keyboard manager software. I reply that I did not use such software. Then, on the day of the payment - support says that they're not convinced, but they're keeping my account for this time and I get the client refund letter.
I asked to escalate and review (I'm on Mac and pretty sure there's no malware installed. The work diary looks fine).
In any case, it looks like doing progressive charges (like on FB/Google ad platforms) on new client's hourly contracts would solve all those issues, and help limit Upwork's hourly protection liability.
Jun 22, 2022 07:03:34 AM by Gregory F
What's even more interesting is that it turned out Upwork is willing to directly lie about the reason they don't honour their payment protection. They were adamant in that I used a key logger "and it can't be escalated to a review". And next week (there were 8 hours logged on the second week) the reason was "low activity". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also, the client found a new freelancer on upwork (also top rated with thousands of hours logged). I viewed it in github and contacted to let him know of the pattern. But there will be many more such examples, I guess, without changing the process on the clients side.
Jun 14, 2022 06:00:27 PM by Michelle N
My client's account was suspended and is currently been investigated.
Upwork suspended their account on Friday just passed and today refunded my client for hours that I worked 3 weeks ago without my consent. My client did not dispute or request the refund and is as baffled as me.
What's the process here?
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