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somerbangk
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Best freelancers according to location

I recently opened a client account and have posted five jobs only. I still do not have a solid testimony of who to hire in terms of skill and location. Based on my research, location has a great impact in terms of project cost since there are skilled freelancers willing to grab the job with a low budget that the same skilled person from another location is not willing to accept. 

 

 

 

I have an upcoming ebook project where I will surely be using help from various freelancers. My question is where should I outsource these talents specific to these skills:

 

1. Editing

2. Book layout

3. Graphic designs

4. Marketing

5. Web designs

 

 

Hoping to hear from your experiences. Thanks a lot!

 

 

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cupidmedia
Community Member

In addition to the advice you've already received, remember that one of the benefits of freelancing is that people can work wherever they wish. Restricting your search to specific countries may exclude digital nomads and other people working and travelling. Knowing what country someone is in right now tells you nothing other than what country they're in right now...

 

I primarily hire translators, and a quick review of my current group of 18 freelancers shows only half of them are currently located in their native country. And translation is one skill where obviously you want to find native speakers of the language. If I had restricted my search for, say, a Dutch translator to only freelancers in the Netherlands, I would have missed out on a great freelancer...

 

Rather than focusing on targeting specific countries, focus on finding people who meet your requirements and your budget, regardless of their location.

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bobafett999
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You can outsource everything, but remember you get what you pay for. 

May I remind everybody that people do travel and that there are native English speakers living in all parts of the world?

For instance, if I were to hire a French native speaker (which I am), I would not limit my search to French speaking countries, as French native speakers living in "lower budget countries" might be just as good but might be cheaper. 

tlsanders
Community Member

If your goal is to use geography strategically to save money, think about which of your freelancers do and do not need strong native English skills. For example, you will almost certainly compromise quality by hiring a non-native English speaker for writing, but a design skills are not English fluency.

Thanks Tiffany! From your previous hires, from what specific country do your best freelancers belong?

JoanneP
Moderator
Moderator

Hi Kevin,

When hiring a freelancer, location is important, but what matters more is that you hire someone who matches the skills and experience needed for your project. Prashant and Tiffany has given you some really useful inputs. Please check out these blogs to help you in your hiring process: Hiring, How much does it cost to hire a content writer, How much does it cost to hire a grpahic designer. You can also chat with our Talent Specialist to help you screen freelancers for your project.

~ Joanne
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resultsassoc
Community Member

You can use many parameters for freelancer searches. I recently used Minimum hourly rate $60 (Upwork doesn't offer a parameter higher than that), North America, Europe, and a couple of job skills, and spent two hours reviewing profiles. Then I issued invitations. I left it open, because both Asia and Australia/New Zealand would have qualified people as well.

 

Upwork rates freelancers based on measurements important to Upwork. If your English is less than native fluency, you might want to look for freelancers who speak more than one language. They can be English and anything else, because those who speak multiple languages are accustomed to being on the other end of your issue. For the past 15 years, more than half of my clients have been from outside the U.S.

 

I have had 100% success in hiring zero-record freelancers on Upwork's predecessor, Elance. Take a chance from time to time.

 

Saving money is important, and an editor charging $5,000 fixed price for your book is probably out of your price range. Editing is a profession, and difficult. Wasting money is as bad as spending too much. I have never turned down a provider because she was too expensive; I have turned down many who

are too cheap. If you don't think you're worth very much, I'm not going to argue.

 

Require a voice-to-voice conversation with your provider before hiring. Be sure the provider can describe what he is going to do, what he is going to deliver, when, for what price, in his/her own words.

Thanks Bill! From your previous hires, from what specific country do your best freelancers belong?

Kevin,

 

I've hired freelancers for multiple roles all over the world. I established a research center in Nigeria, paying $25/hour. It was a disaster. My South African colleague (originally from Zimbabwe) was overseeing their work. He told me to fire everyone, and rehire at $8/hour. The workers all thought I was a stupid American for overpaying, and they didn't actually have to work. At $8/hour, it was a success.

 

U.K. has worked well. I encountered mixed results in Pakistan. Hired a couple, a tech type to build and maintain websites, and his wife, a US law school grad, to do legal research. The tech type was fabulous, his wife cheated me. I reluctantly fired both.

 

India has been a mixed bag. My first CMS website, in Joomla!, was done by an Indian, who was fluent in English, but not Western business. An internet marketer with zero earnings was fabulous doing analysis of my clients' competitors' web presence. I gave up using cheap Indian banner ad folks, hired one from the U.S.

 

Eastern European tech types have been reliable, quick and inexpensive. Latin Americans have all worked out well, for me and my clients. I ran through US Virtual Assistants at one every six weeks, finally hired a client's US VA when, against my advice, he replaced her with his girlfriend. She was with me for three years and was fabulous. BTW, my client's girlfriend didn't work out (surprise?) and he wanted Pam back. She stayed with me until I stopped freelancing for two years.

 

The few Australians I've hired have done well. The Turk I hired to create another business website took my money and disappeared for a year. He had a psychotic break; I haven't had occasion to hire anyone else from Turkey. A Canadian was my default book editor, he had a psychotic break the same week as theTurk. He's better now, so I use him as a paid beta reader.

 

My needs in management consulting are all over the board. PhD Chemist, expert in bush piloting, rubber tree plantation expert, seaport designer, expert in US credit unions, PPT to online learning converter, photo specialist, the list is almost endless. In my author persona, I use a US editor of Indian heritage, a US cover designer who is a Native American, a US banner designer born in Cambodia, paid beta readers from the U.S., U.K. and France.

 

Country makes no difference. When I post a job I look at profiles; a 4.6 rating is superior to a 5.0, because 4.6 requires thought. Failures are irrelevant unless there's a pattern. As with almost all job posters, my posts rarely have 100% of the information needed to establish a firm price and a solid SOW. I encourage applicants to ask questions, and favor those who do. Fluency in English, German, Spanish, French, Italian or Portuguese is largely equal, except for editing or beta-reading. My best beta read came from a French woman. My default book cover designer, US, fired me as a client after I asked that the cover include a shirtless man. "I don't do pornography."

You seem to have full wisdom in the freelancing world. You are amazing! Thanks a lot Bill!

This is beautiful and amazing.

How long could it have taken you to establish those details? 

 

I have had a similar experience, but more like a freelancer who has worked for different clients globally.

 

I am not choosy of whom to work for and most times, I don't even check my client's hire rate. 

 

Mostly, I assess their first message to ascertain if they'll be friendly or not. 

 

At the moment, I am helping 5 clients from 3 counties to research and write  **Edited for Community Guidelines**, edit articles and essays and write an SOP and other admission documents. 

 

It's been a thrilling experience and I always look forward to working with a much more diverse host of clients especially across the US, Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, China, and New Zealand. 

 

Best regard:

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cupidmedia
Community Member

In addition to the advice you've already received, remember that one of the benefits of freelancing is that people can work wherever they wish. Restricting your search to specific countries may exclude digital nomads and other people working and travelling. Knowing what country someone is in right now tells you nothing other than what country they're in right now...

 

I primarily hire translators, and a quick review of my current group of 18 freelancers shows only half of them are currently located in their native country. And translation is one skill where obviously you want to find native speakers of the language. If I had restricted my search for, say, a Dutch translator to only freelancers in the Netherlands, I would have missed out on a great freelancer...

 

Rather than focusing on targeting specific countries, focus on finding people who meet your requirements and your budget, regardless of their location.

Thanks Jennifer! 🙂 Based on your experiences/hires, from what country do your best freelancers belong?


@Kevin S wrote:

Thanks Jennifer! 🙂 Based on your experiences/hires, from what country do your best freelancers belong?


 Thanks for marking my previous reply as the solution, but if you have to ask this I think you're not getting my point 🙂

 

I've had great freelancers from developing countries. Great freelancers from developed countries. Great freelancers from developed countries living in developing countries, and vice versa. My *only* consideration with regards to country is that, as someone who hires translators, I prefer that the person I hire be originally from the primary country that speaks the language I'm hiring for. Once that's confirmed, they can be living in Antarctica for all I care, as long as they have a stable internet connection.

 

If I hire for something other than translation, I don't care what country someone is from, as long as they have the skills and experience I need and meet my budget.

 

The point of Upwork is that it is global. Focus less on country and more on skills and price, if you want to succeed as a client.

Apt and beautiful

Thanks for this

 

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