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Re: Scam-artist freelancers

faithfj
Active Member
Faith J Member Since: Jul 21, 2015
1 of 17

This has happened a couple of times in the past and I stopped hiring anyone from upwork since I wouldn't get any real and appropriate support from upwork. I recently came back and on Feb, 28th, 2018 I hired a freelancer to make an explainer video with my specifications. After I hired him, both of us spend a good 2 hours writing a scene by scene very detailed description of what needs to be shown for a total of only 6 scenes. Then he disappeared. He was supposed to send me a rough cut a couple of days later which was a Friday and he didn't. Instead, he said that he is working very had on it and he promises that he will finish it on Sunday (the deadline). I asked if he can finish it Sunday morning, so we can have all day to work on revisions and he said "NO PROBLEM". Sunday morning came and he had nothing. He used a familiar b.s. that good work takes time and I should be more flexible. He said give me 4 hours and again I said ok. Four hours later, he said he is not ready and how important it is to me that the video is done by today?!!! I said since today is the deadline, before I give you any more time, I have to see what you have so far. He said me wait another 30 mins for rendering and I did. 

 

To my horror, he sent a 10 second (out of 60) clip that has NOTHING to do with the very detailed script we worked on. It was so far off that I was shocked. I started asking questions about scene one, scene 2, ... and bringing up specifically what him and I discussed. He finally confessed that he just started working on it Sunday morning (same day) and he had been busy with another contract up to now. I specifically had asked him before hiring him if he had any contracts and he said NO he is done. So he lied over and over again. When I voiced my displeasure, he ended the contract and blocked me! 

 

Up work allows this to happen all the time. I see upwork responsible for this kind of scam. I didn't find this guy off of internet myself, I found him on upwork and because of the reputation of upwork and trust in them, I hired this guy. He was not paid yet, my money is in escrow but HE WASTED 6 DAYS and I have a deadline tomorrow and absolutely devastated.  

bobafett999
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Prashant P Member Since: Sep 29, 2015
2 of 17

@Faith J wrote:

 

Up work allows this to happen all the time (what happened between you two has nothing to do with Upwork). I see upwork responsible for this kind of scam (how?). I didn't find this guy off of internet myself, I found him on upwork and because of the reputation of upwork and trust in them, I hired this guy (First of all Upwok is a market place.  They are sort of matchmakers - they don't gurantee that the date will go well). He was not paid yet, my money is in escrow but HE WASTED 6 DAYS and I have a deadline tomorrow and absolutely devastated.  (Well since you did not pay him, he was not scamming you.) 


 He ended the contract, leave an honest feedback.  Perhaps next time you should plan to give ample time in your assignments.

 

But I do feel bad that it did not work out.

bobafett999
Community Guru
Prashant P Member Since: Sep 29, 2015
7 of 17

@Faith J wrote:

**Edited for Community Guidelines**


 Well well well.  If you were talking with the same mouth with your freelancer no wonder he ended the contract and blocked you.  He must have spotted trouble ahead.

faithfj
Active Member
Faith J Member Since: Jul 21, 2015
7 of 17

Community Hillarious Guru! stop responding because you are no adding anything. I'm here for real discussion. 

versailles
Community Guru
Rene K Member Since: Jul 10, 2014
7 of 17

@Faith J wrote:

Community Hillarious Guru! stop responding because you are no adding anything. I'm here for real discussion. 


Now it seems you're not. Upwork is not for enveryone. You're wasting your time here with us.

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"Where darkness shines like dazzling light"   —William Ashbless
faithfj
Active Member
Faith J Member Since: Jul 21, 2015
7 of 17

Rene K

What? Why do you think that is? you think I'm here because I made up a story since is so much fun to start a discussion here? If you are not adding any positive feedback to solve the problem may I ask why are you here? is it a heckling session? Is that your job to turn this into a completely different discussion that it was NOT meant to be? 

gerrys
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Gerry S Member Since: Nov 23, 2014
7 of 17

UpWork, with its pomp and circumstance (re: "verification", etc), gives the impression this is a "safe" place.

 

There is no such thing; it's caveat emptor.

faithfj
Active Member
Faith J Member Since: Jul 21, 2015
8 of 17

Thank you Gerry S

gilbert-phyllis
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Phyllis G Member Since: Sep 8, 2016
9 of 17

Faith, what an infuriating predicament for you!

 

Out of curiosity, what led you to hire this FL? Did he have an exceptionally strong UW work history, with many completed contracts and lots of specific, positive client feedback? Did he impress you with a knowledgeable and thoughtful proposal message? Does he have items in his portfolio that are exactly the kind of thing you were looking for on this project? Especially given your previous unhappy experiences hiring on Upwork, I'm interested in what led you to the contract.

versailles
Community Guru
Rene K Member Since: Jul 10, 2014
10 of 17

Faith, this was a cr*ppy experience indeed. It doesn't reflect the whole Upwork experience, far from it, but it may happen.

 

It may happen on Upwork. It may happen on another platform or with the guy who runs a company down the street.

 

Upwork actually provides a means of taking care of this kind of unprofessional freelancers. When you close the contract, you are asked to leave a honest feedback. The feedback is comprised of a public and a private feedback. 

 

If no money was exchanged, only the private feedback will be taken into account, but it weights a lot against the freelancer's JSS. I would even have paid him few bucks, so the public feedback displays shines on his profile.

 

A freelancer whose JSS goes down may find themselves out of business real quick.

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"Where darkness shines like dazzling light"   —William Ashbless