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Soudns like a scam

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
1 of 22

This is the third time I've lost this post. It's really frustrating I'm having to remember to copy the text before I send it.

 

I'm just going to keep this brief because I'm irritated. I don't know all of the ToS, but, asking to use someone else's account sounds like a big no-no.

 

  • I was contacted by a guy via Twitter because he saw my profile on Upwork
  • He wanted to collaborate with me since he liked my Upwork profile (he's full of BS imo)
  • Not many details were discussed through text
  • Majority of details are discussed in a Skype call (I attached the recording below)

**Edited for community guidelines**

 

This whole thing sounds completely ludicrous.

 

The main reason I posted this was that I don't want to have anyone actually follow through with this and the other reason I posted was to see if there's any type of action I should take.

 

Has anyone else ever dealt with something like this? Do any of you on here have any thoughts on the whole thing?

 

 

 

 

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Melanie H Member Since: Nov 2, 2017
2 of 22

I don't know if you're allowed to attach the recording. I didn't listen to it.

 

You're brand-new. The only times I had people try to scam me were when I was very new. Usually it was the whole "Contact me on Google Hangouts" thing. Scammers aren't (entirely) stupid. They know noobs are less likely to have the whole picture on potential scams and also that they're more motivated to grab work because they want to build a JSS.

 

I don't know what this particular scam might have been (as I said, I didn't listen to the recording) but it's always good to post scams so newcomers can read about them if they come onto the forum. You're not alone. Smiley Happy Scammers gonna scam.

 

 

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
3 of 22

Hey Melanie,

 

I attached the recording in the form of the link that is right below the bullet points. Nothing personal is revealed in the conversation.  Let me know if it works so that I can fix it if needed. 

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Melanie H Member Since: Nov 2, 2017
4 of 22

Benjamin P wrote:

Hey Melanie,

 

I attached to recording in the form of the link that is right below the bullet points. Let me know if it works so that I can fix it if needed. 


No, I didn't listen to it because I didn't feel comfortable doing so. Smiley Happy I would feel odd listening in on someone's private conversation.

 

Suffice to say I believe you; scammers are always about. They've been floating around since the dawn of commerce (and probably before). IMO it's always good to point out potential scam MOs, so maybe you'd like to sum up what the scam is (or what you believe it is). Thank you for posting this as a warning to others.

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
5 of 22

Ok, I wasn't sure what you meant, but, now I do.

The gist of the conversation was that this person had been banned from Upwork due to "policy changes." Yeaaa, oook. They wanted access to my account to post offers or at least I think that's what was being requested. They had a very thick accent and that made it hard to understand everything.

 

I actually chuckled when I realized the extent of this request and told them there was no way in hell I would be allowing anyone access to my Upwork account

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Janean L Member Since: Apr 6, 2016
6 of 22

Benjamin --

 

I did listen to the recording. (Since you invited me to do so, I had no qualms about it.)

 

This is an obvious scam. The guy's claim to have an account that was (as he implies) randomly and inexplicably "blocked" as were "many accounts in Eastern European countries" (recently) fails on several counts:  (1) His accent was clearly Asian, NOT Eastern European (most likely Chinese, to my trained ear) (this is consistent with the fact that although he used Skype, he chose to present a three-color triangle as his "photo"); (2) There has been no reported or known "blocking" of any regional accounts by UW, recently or in the long-ago past; and (3) He later conflates the "blocking" of his account with his account being refused. (Choose ONE fail, Scammer Guy, and stick to it!)

 

He wants you to use Teamviewer. It matters not at all that he wants this "only" for four months (!!!). As I understand Teamviewer, once a scammer links to your computer using it, you are helpless -- a bit like a paralyzed fish trapped by a poisonous sea anemone. You can gasp and moan, but your computer is held hostage and you are under the complete control of the scammer. I think that ten minutes might be enough for Death by Scam -- but, then, I'm not sure, because I have never allowed anyone to take over my computer or my account. The Indian and Pakistani guys who call me every few weeks from "Windows," to let me know that my computer has a deadly virus and is about to explode, are always trying to get me to let them gain control of my system by means of Teamviewer.

 

The whole thing is a complete scam. Maybe several different layers or options or flavors of scam. (If "Teamviewer" doesn't work, they'll just buy your account. As he says, a U.S. account is "more stable at this time" than is their account.)

 

He doesn't need or want a "reliable collaborator." He wants a noobie patsy.

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Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
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I listened to it and LOL'd at that loser. I like how he keeps referring to himself as "we."

 

Was this the same guy as this one? https://community.upwork.com/t5/Freelancers/How-do-I-handle-client-asking-for-additional-work/td-p/5...

 

eta: this is nothing new. Chinese guy using American Upwork account to scam clients using TeamViewer.

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
8 of 22

Hi Jennifer,

 

No, this was not the same guy. This guy somehow found me on Twitter and mentioned in the message that he saw my profile on Upwork. I have a very uncommon last name (I'm the first person that shows on a Google search)  and think that might be how he was able to find me.

 

As for the person from the link, you're referring to, we came to an agreement. He sent the contract over and I'm being compensated very well. In fact, he opted to keep the original budget despite the fact we agreed on $100 less.

 

I mentioned this to him and his response was that he felt it was the right thing to do. He did mention that I have no idea how much he sincerely appreciated me letting him know that the contract reflected a higher amount than what was originally discussed

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Virginia F Member Since: Feb 15, 2016
9 of 22

Benjamin P wrote:

This is the third time I've lost this post. It's really frustrating I'm having to remember to copy the text before I send it.

 

I'm just going to keep this brief because I'm irritated. I don't know all of the ToS, but, asking to use someone else's account sounds like a big no-no.

 

  • I was contacted by a guy via Twitter because he saw my profile on Upwork
  • He wanted to collaborate with me since he liked my Upwork profile (he's full of BS imo)
  • Not many details were discussed through text
  • Majority of details are discussed in a Skype call (I attached the recording below)

**Edited for community guidelines**

 

This whole thing sounds completely ludicrous.

 

The main reason I posted this was that I don't want to have anyone actually follow through with this and the other reason I posted was to see if there's any type of action I should take.

 

Has anyone else ever dealt with something like this? Do any of you on here have any thoughts on the whole thing?

 


First, what do you mean by "lost your post"? You can find your posts under your settings/subscriptions, if that helps.

 

Second, this is a known scam that others have reported - you should report it to Upwork and they will take action. No one in their right mind (ETA: except Jen and Janean) is going to click on your link, and you should not be posting it to this public forum.

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Janean L Member Since: Apr 6, 2016
10 of 22

Virginia --

 

I couldn't resist! And my spidy sense told me that Benjamin himself was on the up-and-up.

 

As Jenn M. says, the link is a delicious LULZ!  But, you're quite right: Not safe to be clicking on strange links offering candy.

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