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Re: 6 connects for Entry level job?

paywell
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Pavlo L Member Since: Oct 21, 2019
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Petra R wrote:


Maybe when Pavlo gets a little experience on the platform and thinks it through properly he'll see why it is a very silly set of ideas which would be bad for clients and freelancers in equal measures.


Petra, as a top rated "solution finder" here on the Upwork forum - what would you suggest to address the issue in the topic, or the ones I propose to tackle by implementing a realistic project length and worth? I would love to hear your input.

luisvbarata
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Luis B Member Since: Sep 10, 2019
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The determination of connects are irrational... I have discussed that with Glenn, from Upwork, And I will not repeat here my arguments, but is like trying to determine a price of a product before it has been sold. It´s a communist utopia...  Until you change your policy about connects I will not work anymore in Upwork. 

wlyonsatl
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Will L Member Since: Jul 9, 2015
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Yeah, Rahul, the Upwork algorithm that assigns connect values to new projects might as well be a monkey throwing darts at a board with the numbers 2, 4 and 6 on it.

 

I'd rather see Upwork assign connects required for new projects based on freelancers' work history and average project value, which is probably a better determinant of what the freelancer can expect to be paid on a new project value than anything Upwork can otherwise measure. In my limited experience, many clients obviously have no clue how much they should expect to spend for completion of their projects, so how can Upwork expect to know better?

feed_my_eyes
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Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
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Will L wrote:

Yeah, Rahul, the Upwork algorithm that assigns connect values to new projects might as well be a monkey throwing darts at a board with the numbers 2, 4 and 6 on it.

 

I'd rather see Upwork assign connects required for new projects based on freelancers' work history and average project value, which is probably a better determinant of what the freelancer can expect to be paid on a new project value than anything Upwork can otherwise measure. In my limited experience, many clients obviously have no clue how much they should expect to spend for completion of their projects, so how can Upwork expect to know better?


I don't see how Upwork could possibly implement different connect charges for every freelancer here; also, if they make connects cheaper based on past project values, it will only encourage spam bidding by low earners.

prudentva
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MUHAMMAD IQBAL S Member Since: May 5, 2016
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Hi Will, you are absolutely right. I also believe that most clients are not picking up the right parameters while they are uploading new projects. Like they are making a long term project without giving it any thought if they really have any intention to hire someone on long term basis. But due to their lack of attention, freelancers will have to spend 6 connects.

rafsun_ug
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Rafsun S Member Since: Feb 10, 2018
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Upwork needs lots of money even it doesn't a matter to Upwork, if Freelancers doesn't get jobs or clients never hire anyone. Upwork is getting money whatever the Job was granted to anyone or not! You can see, almost every jobs get more than 50 proposals. That means Upwork earns $45 without anything if there needs a 6 connects...if the job granted to anyone, Upwork earns again 20% commission. It's business brother...it's business! But I strongly believe, what is going on here, is not fair!

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joansands
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Joan S Member Since: Mar 18, 2019
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Rafsun - It's a business, brother, it's a business - and Upwork has always lost money. We just better hope they manage to stay afloat.

marulisan
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Mohhammad Maruf H Member Since: Mar 16, 2021
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Ya. Its brutal. I think in this way fiverr is far better although limited work. What to do?
florydev
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Mark F Member Since: Jul 10, 2018
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Christine A wrote:

Jennifer M wrote:

I read the OP in an Eeyore voice and all the replies got a Winnie the Pooh voice and then I chuckled.


Yeah, that's pretty much how I sound IRL.


I prefer to believe myself a Tigger, but I am afraid I might be a Rabbit.

feed_my_eyes
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Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
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Mark F wrote:

Christine A wrote:

Jennifer M wrote:

I read the OP in an Eeyore voice and all the replies got a Winnie the Pooh voice and then I chuckled.


Yeah, that's pretty much how I sound IRL.


I prefer to believe myself a Tigger, but I am afraid I might be a Rabbit.


No, you're definitely a Tigger.

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