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Unscrupulous client, naive freelancer

9b193774
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Matthew V C Member Since: Jan 26, 2021
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I take it I'm naive in having done 3 days of work for someone with no contract in place and they disappeared from upwork without paying me?

growmyretail
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Pieter B Member Since: Apr 2, 2020
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Well, that would also violate the rules from the freelancer's end. ( and client)

 

And yes, the chances you will see them back are slim, and even if they are, how are you going to prove anything? 

 

petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Matthew V C wrote:

I take it I'm naive in having done 3 days of work for someone with no contract in place and they disappeared from upwork without paying me?


Well, chances are you won't do three days woth of work for free again in future? Never start working until a contract is in place

 

Pieter B wrote:

Well, that would also violate the rules from the freelancer's end. 


No, it does not.

Clients are not allowed to ask for free work. No rule other than common sense forbids a freelancer doing so.

growmyretail
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Pieter B Member Since: Apr 2, 2020
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Oh right,

 

you're correct. Acting in good faith is just an invitation to get screwed over especially when you have zero history with a client.

9b193774
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Matthew V C Member Since: Jan 26, 2021
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Good faith, that's the phrase Pieter. It's not naive to act in good faith, it's honourable. But it can be dispiriting to work for dishonourable people.

9b193774
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Matthew V C Member Since: Jan 26, 2021
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Petra, you have such a warm and sympathetic manner, it amazes me!

petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Matthew V C wrote:

Petra, you have such a warm and sympathetic manner, it amazes me!


Sugarcoating is an optional extra Smiley Wink

 

That said: Whatever you did for that client is still your property because you were not paid, so if it is something that might be published somewhere, you could get sweet revege (or payment).

9b193774
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Matthew V C Member Since: Jan 26, 2021
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Thank you, that was useful to point out. It was a musical composition, so if it ever appears somewhere in the client's name and I find out I will have legal ownership of it. I'll put this stupid mistake of mine down to experience. Rant over!

petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Matthew V C wrote:

Thank you, that was useful to point out. It was a musical composition, so if it ever appears somewhere in the client's name and I find out I will have legal ownership of it. 


Are there musical search engines? Like reverse searches for images to check for plagiaized pictures or copyscape for writing? 

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